The hi-res screens have arrived for Giants: Citizen Kabuto! "awesome!"

I think some of you forget that the PS2\'s emotion engine is much better than a p3-750. The PC\'s only way of surviving is due to the new vid cards that come out. While the PS2\'s GPU might have to be tinkered with, the cpu should have no problem with Giants.


- dm
- what\'s in the f\'cking box?

well jm

to be honest the PSw is capable of anything the latest PC hardware does it just needs to be coded in a whole diffreent matter

BUT

I have reason to suspect these latest screens to be upgraded PC versions. DR UK has a bad habit of yanking peoples chains


Here is the upgraded PS2 version of Kabuto





Here is the original PC version of Kabuto



and here\'s the comparison screen fron DR UK\'s website




What do all of you think, is it PS2 Kabuto or is it upgraded PC version Kabuto

hmmmmmm wow, that makes a complete difference, i think you just bursted my bubble ,  well.. it looks a bit upgraded, and the hub is different, maybe its still in the process? but i think you have just proved they arent ps2 shots ddaryl, but what if they wont make the model look like that?

The main difference between the 2 pictures is that the first has less lighting than the 2nd one. And maybe a few extra details.

jm

[nO-One]

Well the PS.2 version of Kabuto looks more reptilian than the PC version.

also






look at the legs, these are the pc models which means they are PC screenshots

You are right those are PC shots.
Where the hell are the PS2 pics?

[nO-One]

Damn you Daily Radar.Getting us all excited about nothing grrrrrr
I trusted them but now my dreams and hopes have been shattered.

That game can play as pretty as it wants it to be. Just don\'t be crying when you play at 10fps. One thing that stands out, the PS2 version maybe uses 4 lights, verses the PC\'s 16 lights. Difference? Check the pictures, lights play a huge difference on how textures are presented and what colors it displayed. Lights add deapth to character. Sure, more poly\'s means more detailed character, which I believe PS2 can handle quite well. But realtime lighting or even adding lights will definally strain the emotion engine. I don\'t care how good of a programmer you are, lights really take a toll on performance. Its something non-avoidable.

But I admitt, those PS2 screens look mighty nice. Until I see some action movies of the game 75%-85% done, I will make final judgement.

jm

jm - Solution: Prelight the map, that is send the map with all the information of where the light hits, where the shadows are cast for the terrain all in the one package, that way you take all the strain away from working on properly lighting the terrain and can concentrate on just lighting the models within in. Have a look at the screenshots for Dropship (and perhaps StarWars:Starfighter?) and youll notice that the mountains cast shadows in some shots.

edit: by the way you might want to make sure you have transform and lighting (T&L) selected in the graphics options menu, Id be suprised if your PC has difficulty running it if my p2-400 with a Geforce (@ 800x600x32) can run it quite reasonably.

-bd

um guys the pics were i think off a pc geforce  no way a ps2!... sorry and do you remember SVGA compared to consoles, consoles in a strange way looked softer on the edges so more real!? i dont know any way look at centrals link to the pics and it says they are off the pc!
.....and do you not see how far in  to the distance u can see!!!! thats why the ps2 cant handel it .... it cant even do it on the trial mountain level on gt3!!! as u come throu the "s" bend at the end...i know different engin but still........   its just AI team mates i dont think its multi player on the same team... please dont shout at me!!lol

wow
if it even is slightly degraded when brought to PS2 it will still look amazing.

I\'m not using a GeForce 2. I\'m just refering to what the reviews are saying. Giants is a very complex game. I was refering my posts to THOSE screenshots. They appear to be using the settings such as 1024x768x32 w/ FSAA, lightmap, and trilinear filtering. No way in hell is that gonna run at 60fps on a GeForce 2 without a P3 800.

jm

Even on a p3-800 w/a GeForce 2 the game won\'t run @ 60fps.

I\'m running it on an Athlon GHZ w/a GeForce 2 (GTS/PRO) 64MB DDR.. and it\'s not always 60..

- dm
- what\'s in the f\'cking box?

And for the record, I believe the PS2 has superior lighting compared to a PC. While the GeForce 2 might have more light sources, no game on PC has lighting that looks like the PS2. And I\'ve played *all* the next-gen PC games..

Hmm, we are in the era of GeForce 3\'s now. They are far superior to Geforce 2\'s!! Quake 3 has a ton of lighting.

jm