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Is MGS2 gonna be on DVD ? It should be ! Why ? heres why !
« on: March 23, 2001, 01:20:35 AM »
Alot of ppl had defected demos to return.
The clerk told me mine is good. So I went
and play. The intro worked ok, but when
snake reaches for his codec on deck I really had
to wait some time before the screen switches
to codecscreen. In other words this game is
really data intensive and the compactdisc demo
can handle it just about so.
The dvd medium should be able to cope with
this and decrease loading times.
Although if you play the demo more often loading
times should speed up a little.
But this \'loading time\' issue is going to be a crucial
criteria to the final game.

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2001, 01:56:01 AM »
I believe its gonna b on dvd..

Hopefullly some behind the scenes footage on the making also, interviews with the voice actors etc..
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2001, 02:04:32 AM »
what are you tacking about!!

It certanly will be on DVD but not for that reason, just the Demo is nearly 500megs in size!!!! & thats just 5% of the whole game.

I have the Jap & PAL demo, they both load fine no long wait your disk or ps2 is defective.
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2001, 02:44:04 AM »
There are very few future games for the PS2 that won\'t be on DVD.  Developers like having a lot of space to work with.  Developers also like how the DVD has better streaming speeds than the CD does.  There isn\'t really a reason to go with the normal CD anymore (besides the few cents extra making the DVD :)).
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2001, 03:38:27 AM »
Will the Loading time be improved by using the DVD format ?

because what i have heard is that the MGS2 demo has very little loading times. looks like i will need to take mine back on monday :(.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2001, 03:43:57 AM »
That what I meant to say when I said "faster streaming speeds." (my mistake :)) Yes, the DVD can load faster than the CD.  Like in DOA2:HC, there were no load times going from a battle to a between-battle story.  I think load times on the PS2 will eventually not even exist.  They are already getting close.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2001, 03:44:19 AM »
Thats one thing that konami is really working on. The load times.

Ps2 loading times seem to be longer than the dreamcasts. And its twice as fast..
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2001, 06:59:24 AM »
i think that soon there will be hardly any load times, they are getting shorter and shorter, dvd is the future of games, and dont forget GC with its mini disks :) i wana see how long the loading times are on thsoe games, but anyways,remember the PS2 isnt even 6 months old yet, it got 5 years before the big brother arrives :)
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2001, 08:22:31 AM »
Why are you guys all saying the DVD will load faster than CD????

The DVD drive transfers data off a DVD at 4x which is a paltry 600k of data a second.

When trransferring data off a CD it reads the data at 24x which is 3,600k a second.

So how if it\'s on a DVD will the load times be faster????
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2001, 08:26:58 AM »
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Why are you guys all saying the DVD will load faster than CD????

The DVD drive transfers data off a DVD at 4x which is a paltry 600k of data a second.

When trransferring data off a CD it reads the data at 24x which is 3,600k a second.

So how if it\'s on a DVD will the load times be faster????


way more space on the dvd to load
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2001, 08:31:43 AM »
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way more space on the dvd to load




Yeah thats true...I forgot that DVD\'s hold like 4.7 gb on a one sided disc..what does a 2 sided disc hold?
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2001, 08:35:43 AM »
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Why are you guys all saying the DVD will load faster than CD????

The DVD drive transfers data off a DVD at 4x which is a paltry 600k of data a second.

When trransferring data off a CD it reads the data at 24x which is 3,600k a second.

So how if it\'s on a DVD will the load times be faster????


Wolfman,

I\'m not a techy person, but I believe the 4x and 24x are relative speeds for the DVD and CD reading respectively - ie you can\'t compare them (you\'re assuming that DVD 4x is just 6 times slower than 24x CD reading speed), and I\'m also 99% sure that the PS2 can read from the DVD a lot faster than it can from the CD.

Anyone else with more technical know-how care to enlighten us?
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2001, 09:35:57 AM »
Okay, should I then return my demo or not ?
It does play, only loading is sometimes a little
slow. ( just a little... )

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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2001, 09:40:05 AM »
no dont return it, whats the point, its a fuc*ing demo man, if its a little slow who cares, as long as it works right!? why dont you play Z.O.E. instead
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2001, 09:44:21 AM »
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Why are you guys all saying the DVD will load faster than CD????

The DVD drive transfers data off a DVD at 4x which is a paltry 600k of data a second.

When trransferring data off a CD it reads the data at 24x which is 3,600k a second.

So how if it\'s on a DVD will the load times be faster????
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Wolfman,

I\'m not a techy person, but I believe the 4x and 24x are relative speeds for the DVD and CD reading respectively - ie you can\'t compare them (you\'re assuming that DVD 4x is just 6 times slower than 24x CD reading speed), and I\'m also 99% sure that the PS2 can read from the DVD a lot faster than it can from the CD.

Anyone else with more technical know-how care to enlighten us?



DVD/    Data Rate/    CD equiv.
1x /     (1.32 MB/s) /       9x        
2x  /    (2.64 MB/s) /       18x      
4x  /    (5.28 MB/s) /       36x      
5x  /    (6.60 MB/s) /       45x      
6x  /    (7.93 MB/s) /       54x      
8x  /    (10.57 MB/s) /     72x      
10x /   (13.21 MB/s) /     90x      
16x /   (21.13 MB/s) /     144x    

So Basically this means that the 4x DVD drive on the ps2 is equivilent to a 36x CD-rom drive.  So yes, games on DVD can and will load faster.
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