PS2 more "PC\'ish" than Xbox

i dont what to have any bad feelings with people on this forum ok,so what do you say no hard feeling TheOgodlyThing and Samwise?

I\'m sorry if i got angry, i admit i got abit overboard and could have handled it a bit better. Anyhow it\'s COOL

[nO-One]

can you feel the love

Convergence, the over-used buzz word as of late, is a reality. Expect MS to follow similar actions when Xbox is available to the public, and when online play is close to a reality. Sony is just a little further down the road at this point. No biggy, really.

Thanks samwise and TheOgodlyThing,for no hard feelings,i think the best thing for me to do,is just stay out of this thread,see ya later people: )

Originally posted by Samwise
I think it\'s pretty ironic how PS2 fanboys always referred to Xbox as being a small PC and whatnot. But in reality PS2 is far more a mini-PC than Xbox, as PS2 will have Internet browsing, email, AOL deals, realplayer, Flash, DVD playback out of the box, keyboard, mouse, USB, printers, cameras, Firewire etc. MS on the other hand is stressing quite hardly that Xbox is a game machine, not a PC. That\'s why it can only play games and the DVD playback is an option.

Pretty ironic huh?

Yeah your right but.......

I think Sony wants to do more that just hold back Excusive games from Microsoft.

Remember when the X box was announced, was there the start of this whole you can use our PS2 like a make shift PC......

Looks like with this console war none of the companyes want to be out done by ANY of their rivals.


Nintendo rain on Microsofts Launch by moving their\'s before the X box.....

Microsoft starts to steel games form the PS2....

And Sony aim for Microsofts online promise..

To everyone who thinks Sam should not post this here I want you to do something.  Hit the back button on your browser and look at the name of this forum, what does it say?  CONSOLE DEBATING!!!  Sammy has every right to post this here.

Originally posted by Samwise
I hate fanboys  

Originally posted by Heretic
a PS2 fanboy is no worse than a anti-fanboy "fanboy".

Originally posted by Heretic

a PS2 fanboy is no worse than a anti-fanboy "fanboy".
 

READ this very carefully before you call anyone a FAnBOY AGAIN  !

Originally posted by Samwise

Heretic, I think you\'re wrong. I said PS2 fanboys - I didn\'t say PS2 fans. I hate fanboys and whatever system they love doesn\'t matter to me! If they\'re PS2 fanboys then they\'re just as bad as GC/Xbox fanboys in my opinion. There\'s no excuse for being a fanboy. Don\'t think because I\'m moderator at a PS2 forum I like PS2 fanboys more - because I don\'t. If you have a problem with that, then there\'s nothing I can do.

I know the Xbox components are more "PC\'ish" than PS2, but the IRONY here is that EVEN though Xbox has PC\'ish components it focuses on GAMING and it doesn\'t have all those non-gaming options that PS2 does. That is a fact my dear man. And here is the irony I was talking about - do you understand it now?

BTW, you don\'t have to lecture me about anything. I should think I know what I\'m doing.  

Oh well, can\'t please them all.
 

Wise words From th Wise man, read and Take in !

Thank you 00seven, I\'ll let your post speak for itself and not bother with him again.

Damn being in the UK sucks, before I can comment I need to read through about 20 posts.

Here are my wise words.

First thing I really hate when people use bad language to try and prove a point, when really it just prooves how much of a **** they are.

Anyway back to the thread.

From what I can tell your saying PS2 is more PC like than X-Box because of all the additional extras.

Well that is true to a sense but by no means does it prove that fact.

For starters these extras are, extras. No one forces you to purchase them and its not like Sony included them in the original package. However they wernt money grabbing like Microsoft and used some lame excuse that because this is a "real" console for games you HAVE TO BUY a DVD remote to use the DVD. Yeah nice one Microsoft.

Secondly, these extras aren\'t bad. Games consoles have evolved over the years, they can now play DVDs, they can now surf the net etc. This means what ? That a console is more PC like, well if thats true then I want my console to be more PC like.

Finally X-Box will have these features. I would put money on it that the X-Box will eventually be able to go online and the likes.

So really this debate isn\'t about the extras. Its down to one thing, image. Believe it or not the Playstation has invented quite a good image among casual gamers as being "cool" whilst Microsoft is seen as nerdy, the X-Box is seen as a small PC.

Any fanboys who are going to argue about this aren\'t obviously the hardcore gamers they make out to be.

Prehaps technically the console with the most addons is like a PC but in theory what fanboy is going to know that, they are basing there facts down to image, and theres no doubt about it that a microsoft console is more pc like than a sony console based on the image of the two companies.

Microsoft try to avoid this attention by saying its a games machine only. I bet it has the same addons soon enough (repeated myself I know but its true).

- CONCLUSION -

In my opinion Samwise started this debate and a lot of gamers tired to argue about which is more PC like in terms of hardware. Well neither they are both consoles. They will probably both have internet access and in turn flash support too.

In terms of image which is what started this whole thing off (people accusing the X-Box to be PC like) well you can see where there coming from. I mean I don\'t agree with them but Microsoft, the biggest company in the PC world is making this console. Its based on x86 archutecture. Its leader is Bill Gates and The Rock.

Finally no im not a fanboy in anyway. I own many consoles from different companies and a PC. I like games. Im not loyal to any particular console company.

Originally posted by RichGUK

Here are my wise words.

First thing I really hate when people use bad language to try and prove a point, when really it just prooves how much of a **** they are.

 

now how is that for IRONY - j/k

but dang for a minute there i thought we were debating about the PCishness of each console... oh whats that we were ok then back to the topic

i think that each console will slowly turn to Portable PCs with the introduction of the internet - The Internet is bringing in a lot of accessories that weren\'t needed before

like the Iomega Zip Drive wouldn\'t be needed if there was no Internet stuff - for one the Zip drive will store custom features of games and stuff like that - well where would you get those - from the internet

really i love my PC and don\'t really mind my PS2 being turned into one - as long as it stays portable

This is ironic. PC,PC, and more PC. The poor PC cant be a PC by itself no more. All along these new consoles are all secretly PC wanna bees buzzing all around. Thats old. The PS2 is quickly turning in to PC port machine enjoying many originals and thier follow ups. Ironic. The XBox was accused of this. I dont want to see the PC type games on the PS2..I want to see PS2 games! I already have these games for PC. And by the way PC games won E3...again. KEEP PLAYING.
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So from what I read so far, people think that PC components are bad.  What\'s so bad about PC components if they all contribute to an awesome system like Xbox is?  PS2 can internally be a game machine, but that don\'t mean sh*t if all it does is run web browsers and Linux.  The only PC part in Xbox is the Pentium III and that\'s it!  The NV2A may be based on the GF3 but it won\'t work in a PC.

[nO-One]

From what I\'ve read the NV2A is basically a GF.3 which has been modified to use the UMA instead of the normal onboard memory.

But there doesn\'t seem to be alot of info available on it.

According to some sources Xbox represents the peak in graphics possible using the PC technology that has been the standard over the last thirty years. The only thing wrong with the concept is graphics-wise it has always been a makeshift setup for handling that particular application, while we\'ve seen steady improvement over the years its now reached the point of noticeably diminishing returns with substantial increases in processing power.


For the record: I think Sam is the Man, I like him as a person and respect him as a mod. You may well say ‘you got a strange way of showing it dude\'. True, but if I didn\'t think highly of him I\'d never of bothered to try and say more than just my little spiel about the topic at hand.

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