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Gay Marriages

o to gay marriages, no change in 50 yrs
5 (16.1%)
o to gay marriages, but will probably change in 50 yrs
3 (9.7%)
es to gay marriages, but no change in 50 yrs
3 (9.7%)
es to gay marriages, will probably change in 50 yrs
13 (41.9%)
ndecided / Doesn\'t matter.
7 (22.6%)

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« Reply #135 on: February 07, 2004, 10:23:33 PM »
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The purpose depends on the perspective.

Then again, I suppose you could argue the instinct that drives you to enage in sex is to reproduce. But when I jack off does that mean I want to have babies?
What possible perspective is there that would show the purpose of sex being anything other than reproduction? The fact that sex is pleasurable is clouding your minds.
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« Reply #136 on: February 07, 2004, 10:26:56 PM »
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What possible perspective is there that would show the purpose of sex being anything other than reproduction? The fact that sex is pleasurable is clouding your minds.


exactly! the act of sex was meant for one act only..to reproduce.
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« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2004, 03:04:03 AM »
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Don\'t try to catch me up on semantics because its not going to work.

Sex is a function of reproduction. Therefore having sex is a means to reproduce.


Well DUH

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Whether or not you and your girlfriend mean to have a child is beside the point. If you put a plug in a socket with no power that doesn\'t mean that the purpose is any different.


No its not beside the point.Humans dont act only biologically like animals.There is also another perspective in humans.

You mean I do sex for pleasure because I want to reproduce?(tll that to a gay or a lesbian).We are not animals.If you choose to do it only for pleasure you do it only for pleasure.If you have a child and dont want another one you do it for pleasure and for means of communication.You wont be having 30 children from the day you met your mate till the day you die.Even if you had the money to raise all.
Humans dont do sex instinctively like animals.
If I accept what you said then I guess oral and anal sex is also for reproduction means.Oops wrong socket isnt it?
Gays and lesbians need sex as much as we do.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2004, 03:08:34 AM by Unicron! »

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« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2004, 03:56:34 AM »
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Well DUH

 

No its not beside the point.Humans dont act only biologically like animals.There is also another perspective in humans.

You mean I do sex for pleasure because I want to reproduce?(tll that to a gay or a lesbian).We are not animals.If you choose to do it only for pleasure you do it only for pleasure.If you have a child and dont want another one you do it for pleasure and for means of communication.You wont be having 30 children from the day you met your mate till the day you die.Even if you had the money to raise all.
Humans dont do sex instinctively like animals.
If I accept what you said then I guess oral and anal sex is also for reproduction means.Oops wrong socket isnt it?
Gays and lesbians need sex as much as we do.



:laughing: Oops wrong socket isn\'t it? hilarious! c\'mon uni, you guys are making this complicated. first & foremost sex was meant for reproduction..everything else is secondary..yes gays & lesbians need sex as much as we do, but they do it strickly for pleasure. If they do it for reproduction or wanting a child they..the lesbian at least has to go the route of artificial insemetnation (spell?) only option for the men is to adopt.
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« Reply #139 on: February 08, 2004, 04:03:34 AM »
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:laughing: Oops wrong socket isn\'t it? hilarious! c\'mon uni, you guys are making this complicated. first & foremost sex was meant for reproduction..everything else is secondary..yes gays & lesbians need sex as much as we do, but they do it strickly for pleasure. If they do it for reproduction or wanting a child they..the lesbian at least has to go the route of artificial insemetnation (spell?) only option for the men is to adopt.


I believe all perspectives of sex are as important for human kind.Ofcourse we know gays and lesbians cant reproduce but why should they lack the right of marriage?Its emotionally and psychologically very harsh for any human being to lack that bond with a partner.
Even straight men and women many times suffer from depression and emotional instability if they dont have sexual communication and offer and take love with a partner.Imagine how hard that would be for gays or lesbians that are accepted in society as freaks.
I dont think its right for gay or lesbian couples to adopt or generally raise a kid becuase it might cause confuson to the child though.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2004, 04:10:02 AM by Unicron! »

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« Reply #140 on: February 08, 2004, 04:24:31 AM »
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I believe all perspectives of sex are as important for human kind.Ofcourse we know gays and lesbians cant reproduce but why should they lack the right of marriage?Its emotionally and psychologically very harsh for any human being to lack that bond with a partner.
Even straight men and women many times suffer from depression and emotional instability if they dont have sexual communication and offer and take love with a partner.Imagine how hard that would be for gays or lesbians that are accepted in society as freaks.
I dont think its right for gay or lesbian couples to adopt or generally raise a kid becuase it might cause confuson to the child though.


argh! :rpissed: smacks uni upside the head! If you read a couple of my posts you will see i feel the same way you do..as far as the marriage (doesn\'t really bother me) & kids (i have some issues with that) are concerned. i was just focusing on the fact that sex  in general, main purpose is for reproducing. Yes it doesn\'t hurt that it feels good & all, but take away the birth control & condoms and what do you have..sex was meant for reproduction.

If god OR for the sake of not turning this into a religious thread our creator did not meant for sex to be an act of reproduction, he would have given the female & male some type of organ or a process to control it.
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« Reply #141 on: February 08, 2004, 05:37:59 AM »
LOL :laughing: I didnt try to disagree with you.I was just adding more to my thoughts

Anyways.If there wasnt any birth control or condoms it wouldnt change the fact that even then sex would have satisfied more needs(the needs I mentioned above) than just reproduction.


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If god OR for the sake of not turning this into a religious thread our creator did not meant for sex to be an act of reproduction, he would have given the female & male some type of organ or a process to control it.


hehehe well.There are some techniques in Tantric sex where a man can learn how to handle his ejaculation  and have continuous orgasms :D
« Last Edit: February 08, 2004, 05:40:51 AM by Unicron! »

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« Reply #142 on: February 10, 2004, 02:04:42 AM »
Ain\'t it funny that even though sex was made for babies, 99% of the time humans do it they don\'t want any?

Another one of the big riddles of life.

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« Reply #143 on: February 10, 2004, 02:40:18 AM »
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No I wouldn\'t.So what\'s your point?


They are RAPING the animal :rolleyes:

They are molesting the animal.

Dont judge gay sex as if its the same thing as having sex with an animal.
Even if a gau raped a gay it would have been an act to be punished
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« Reply #144 on: February 10, 2004, 10:12:53 AM »
Gay sex has tunred up in the thread.

Funny how some ppl think woman on women is a beautiful thing, but cringe at the thought of male on male.

Most guys are kool with girls having sex with eachother.


I had a cousin die from aids. He was gay.

And growing up in a god fearing background it was not tough.
But nobody never judged him they left that up to god.

Having had a member of my family die from aids and being gay change my way of seeing the entire situation.

Although I feel that it is wrong I don\'t judge i just accept the person for who they are and leave it up to god. Only when gays try to mix god in what they are doing do I speak up.
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« Reply #145 on: February 10, 2004, 10:47:15 AM »
What do you mean by mixing god with what they are doing?

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« Reply #146 on: February 10, 2004, 12:20:39 PM »
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Funny how some ppl think woman on women is a beautiful thing, but cringe at the thought of male on male.

Most guys are kool with girls having sex with eachother.




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