Congressman omits \'Under God\' from pledge...

Originally posted by Coredweller
A few days later, the answer comes...  

Judge Voids Law Keeping Fla. Woman Alive

TAMPA, Fla. - A law pushed through by Gov. Jeb Bush to keep a severely brain-damaged woman alive was struck down by a Florida judge Thursday in the latest turn in one of the nation\'s longest and bitterest right-to-die cases.

The governor\'s office filed an immediate appeal.

Circuit Judge W. Douglas Baird ruled that Terri\'s Law, named after Terri Schiavo, is unconstitutional because it violates the disabled woman\'s right to privacy and delegates legislative power to the governor.

I knew it!  You didn\'t mention this from the article!

Michael Schiavo is engaged to another woman with whom he has two children. At one point in the case, he stood to inherit hundreds of thousands of dollars from a medical trust fund that paid for his wife\'s care; the money has largely been depleted through legal bills.

I knew there was something not quite normal about this case - this isn\'t a simple right to life case because she left no written instructions AND the guy wants to remarry - not to mention he was going to inherit a ton of money if this all went "smoothly".

Originally posted by TSina
I know what I said. I do know the difference. I may speak loosely, but I think you are still missing what I have exactly explained to you.

No more, no less.

Tsina... your village is calling, they want their idiot back.  

Originally posted by GigaShadow
I knew there was something not quite normal about this case - this isn\'t a simple right to life case because she left no written instructions AND the guy wants to remarry - not to mention he was going to inherit a ton of money if this all went "smoothly".

I\'ve considered this, and I don\'t think you can really hold the circumstances against him.  Everything didn\'t go smoothly, thanks to the woman\'s other relatives who wanted to keep her alive.  The medical trust fund was spent on the legal proceedings instead, but that was a private fund, not borne by the state.  The only way you could blame the husband is if he was lying when he said his wife had expressed a desire to be taken off life support.  We will never know, but I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the living, not the brain dead.

The real issue is Jeb Bush\'s efforts to block the court decision with this last minute legislative attack.  Many people commented that the law was unconstitutional and would probably be overturned.  However, he pushed it through to "send a message" of some sort...  What the message was, I have no idea, BUT it cost the Florida taxpayers a considerable amount for the constitutional challenge.  Now Jeb says he\'s going to appeal, which will cost yet more.  What is the point of all this?  

Conservatives are supposed to be interesting in "shrinking government" and keeping the government out of individuals lives, right?  Wouldn\'t you say Jeb is meddling just a little to much, at the taxpayers\' expense?  Let the original court decision stand; don\'t change the rules with a new law when you don\'t like the outcome!

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Tsina... your village is calling, they want their idiot back.  

Don\'t say a thing to me about keeping things on topic or insulting others.

Even if I would have made the more correct association, what would you have had to say?

[Titan]

He has a smily, its considered either a joke or sarcasm

The Bible predicted this to happen.  Startling but not surprising.

Originally posted by Titan
He has a smily, its considered either a joke or sarcasm

It might also be considered passive-aggressive.  

I just consider it a way to "politely" insult someone. I might be new here, but I am not new to message forums. Espescially considering we haven\'t been friendly with each other at all in here.

Originally posted by alliswell
The Bible predicted this to happen.  Startling but not surprising.

Whoa! the Bible predicted Tsina and I would argue in this forum!  Amazing can you please post a link? :rolleyes:

Tsina - the major issue I have with you and your posts is that they try to present your opinion as fact - when nothing could be further from the truth.  Your arguements are weak and you have no credible references to back them up.  You will learn that in this forum it is wise to back up your statements with links from "credible" websites to support your arguments.

I also find it amusing that you get so easily rattled when faced with a logical opposing view - like the other night for example when you said:

"I\'m simply posting something to spark discussion/debate. Once again, if you don\'t like it, keep your mouth shut untill your moderator duties require you to do so."

AND

"BTW, I\'m not trying to be a bitch now, I\'m just plainly and simply fed up with you."

Which was in response to my post about Reuters not being a great source of unbiased news.  

That being said, if you have any further problems with me - PM me and don\'t take a grevience with me onto the forums.  I am sure no one else likes to read this sort of nonsense in the middle of a thread.  

Core!  Back to your last post buddy.  Putting the suspicious circumstances aside.  There was no written instructions regarding being taken off of life support.  I also know if I had a daughter and she was married and in the same situation, the husband wanted to take her off of life support - I would have done everything in my power to prevent it.  After all, she would be my child biologically.  In a case like this I think the biologicial relative should have a say in what happens to their child.  Do you not agree?

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Core!  Back to your last post buddy.  Putting the suspicious circumstances aside.  There was no written instructions regarding being taken off of life support.  I also know if I had a daughter and she was married and in the same situation, the husband wanted to take her off of life support - I would have done everything in my power to prevent it.  After all, she would be my child biologically.  In a case like this I think the biologicial relative should have a say in what happens to their child.  Do you not agree?

I think it\'s hard for any of us to answer that question if we don\'t have children.  (I don\'t).  I do know that I would work toward pulling someone off life support if they were brain dead.  If it were my child, then yes I might hesitate... but maybe just for selfish reasons.  Perhaps then a more impartial person should have the responsibility of the decision.  I do believe that when your CPU is cooked, there isn\'t any worthwhile life or recovery beyond that.

Hey this reminds me of that argument over the burn victim!     But this girl is BRAIN DEAD, not burned!  That goes out to the othe party in that thread, I think it was Unicron?

I agree if someone is brain dead - why keep them alive, but the parents say they have seen signs of improvement.  Whether that is true or just a tactic to keep her "alive" for their own selfish reasons, I do not know.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Whoa! the Bible predicted Tsina and I would argue in this forum!  Amazing can you please post a link? :rolleyes:

 

How do you think I was able to predict the current situation of U.S. in Iraq?

It wasn\'t of my own insight,  but from what the Bible says.

Rumsfeld said that he doubts anyone predicted that they would be in the situation they are in today.

The Bible predicted it,  and I told everyone what has and will happen. (in the war in Iraq)

Originally posted by Luke
 
Clowd you still never answered my question.


You talk alot of shit about "whats going to happen next".

when I ask you what your talking about all you say is "You will see".

You do realize that just makes it look even more like you have no idea what your talking about right?


I know, I know, your gonna post something after me with a whole lotta words that really don\'t say much except for "I\'m smart and I know whats going on"

You guy\'s wanna know the truth?

well... None of us really have ANY clue as to whats really going on. Think about what you hear on the news, or read in the newspaper and then realize that there is probably sooooo much stuff being kept from us that we can ramble and ramble and ramble on and if someone were to come in here and read this shit and ACTUALLY KNOW what\'s going on they would laugh and say we have no clue what were talking about... It\'s still good fun though.

Clowd... As much as you THINK you know what\'s going on, you don\'t. But that holds true to everybody.

Give me something other than "I\'ll kick all your asses"

or

"you will see"

Maybe then I\'ll take you a little more seriously... Then again maybe not.



Man, nevermind... I don\'t even care anymore.


Too much coffee this morning.[/i]

Luke your answer is that I have found that all this was in the Bible and I simply stated it to you.

[Titan]

Originally posted by alliswell
The Bible predicted this to happen.  Startling but not surprising.

And how do you figure this happened?