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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2004, 06:29:39 AM »
His radio show may not slant to the right but I have always felt that his column slants to the right.

In fact I think the entire Boston Herald slants to the right.

/Not that that\'s a bad thing. ;)
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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2004, 06:31:51 AM »
Why was this made a sticky yet  the presidential was not. It looks like a vast right wing conspiracy to me.

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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2004, 07:52:53 AM »
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Man, watching the media spin this into an Edwards win is very interesting. In no way did I see this as an Edwards win or a draw.


I thought it was it least a draw for Edwards, he might have been slapped around a few times,  but he came out shooting, and kept the tempo going.

Cheney was like Darth Vader.
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2004, 09:38:30 AM »
Honestly with the amount of traffic on this site we don\'t really need any stickies...

Pres will be a sticky.
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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2004, 10:54:38 AM »
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Why was this made a sticky yet  the presidential was not. It looks like a vast right wing conspiracy to me.


Because we didn\'t think about it until the other day when the last debate thread was closed.  The next Pres will be a sticky too.  

Talk about trying to read into something... ;)
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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2004, 11:19:32 AM »
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Man, watching the media spin this into an Edwards win is very interesting. In no way did I see this as an Edwards win or a draw.


Yeah, it\'s kinda funny how people watch a debate and then just agree with whatever the experts say.


I myself think they are usually pretty correct, and I didn\'t watch any examinations of the debate afterwords but I thought it was a win for Cheney because he had a whole arrangement of facts and one-liners to hit Edwards with.
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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2004, 12:04:03 PM »
Let\'s cllear one thing up, even if you think Edwards did not win the debate, if most the polls show he did, don\'t try and say it was because of a mass email and automated polling. It just looks pathetic on your part.

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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2004, 12:10:35 PM »
Like I said, I don\'t put too much faith in polls.  Especially flash polls.  They are too easily manipulated.
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2004, 12:13:20 PM »
I won\'t say it was a mass campaign or anything, but I was up last night at 3:30 am.  I logged on to MSNBC and they had over 890,000 votes.  In only 5 hours?

They took the poll off and started a new one.  

So take that as you will.

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I take that back.  I was told they took it down, but maybe it was CNN.  We were talking about both sites at the time.  The MSNBC site is up to 2.18 million voters so I think it\'s the same poll I saw last night.
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2004, 12:36:29 PM »
ONLINE SURVEYS

In contrast, MSNBC\'s online surveys (Live Votes) may reflect the views of far more individuals, but they are not necessarily representative of the general population.


To begin with, the people who respond choose to do so — they are not randomly selected and asked to participate, but instead make the choice to read a story about a certain topic and then vote on a related question. There is thus no guarantee that the votes would reflect anything close to a statistical sample, even of MSNBC.com users: The participants in a Sports Live Vote and a Politics Live Vote may overlap, but each group is likely to be dominated by people with an interest in each particular area. In addition, while MSNBC.com’s Live Votes are designed to allow only one vote per user, someone who wants to vote more than once could simply use another computer or another Internet account.


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« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2004, 04:03:45 PM »
If I could vote, I would probably vote for Bush. Kerry talks about how this is the wrong war, in the wrong place at the wrong time and how it is such a mistake. But whether he likes it or not were in it. If he takes over as president he\'s going to have to finish it out. It\'s like how can you say it\'s the wrong war and we shouldn\'t be there but then send more troops. I don\'t know how you can so so many bad things about it and finish it strongly. Maybe he will do good, but I would feel much more safe and much less worried if Bush finished this out.

As for the debate, I think Cheney won. There were a few times Cheney made Edwards look real bad. Like when he said this is the first time I\'ve ever met you. I think Edwards had a cheap shot on Cheney when he brought up his lesbian daughter. It was on topic, and it was a compliment but still, you shouldn\'t talk about someones family.


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Cheney was like Darth Vader.



Yea, I think they said that about 2 minutes after the debate.
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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2004, 04:14:02 PM »
Sort of like, your damned if you do, damned if you don\'t.
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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2004, 05:32:56 PM »
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Kerry talks about how this is the wrong war, in the wrong place at the wrong time and how it is such a mistake.
Wow. I think this is the first time I have ever seen someone on this site repeat a political talking point verbatim in a non-joking manner.

Its actually kind of weird.
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