Vice-Presidential Debate: Cheney vs. Edwards (Reactions)

The reaction I have so far is that Edwards is being very agressive while Cheney is being passive.  Edwards seems more into it, and personally I thought he should have been the democratic nominee over Kerry.

It\'s still early in the debate, but Edwards looks sharp, as usual.

I think Cheney is slapping him around with details and Edwards is doing all that he can ti slip in his sound-bites.

Totally agree, and I like Kerry.

Originally posted by Ace
I think Cheney is slapping him around with details and Edwards is doing all that he can ti slip in his sound-bites.

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Edwards is coming back - but for the most part Cheney is bitch smacking him.

Edwards came on strong, took a beating for a good 30-40 minutes, but he\'s got Cheney trapped on domestic issues.

They both got into a bitch fight those over personal records, it was unnnecessary.

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Edwards had his talking points. Said them.  Now he\'s dead.  I\'m sorry, but Cheney is down right kicking his ass.  I don\'t know if it\'s possible to see this one in favor of Edwards at all.

I think both have done things well, Cheney seems more prepared with the facts where as Edwards is trying to project a direct and clear image.

Cheney wins on content.

Edwards wins on style.

one thing Edwards did very well was early in the debate by saying "The American people see it on their TV\'s" he somewhat created a feeling of seperation between American people and the current administration.

But anyways, I\'ll agree that Cheney slightly won this debate. But it was nothing major, Edwards still did very well.

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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Edwards seems more into it, and personally I thought he should have been the democratic nominee over Kerry.

Agreed. Edwards I think wouldn\'t be too bad of a president. Maybe 2008?

Edwards was pretty well. I thought his public speaking skills were very good. But he is a lawyer, he\'s is used to this kind of things. Cheney did smack down Edwards on a lot of things. I did miss a good 45 minutes of it because of work. They both I think did very well, but I personally think Cheney won.

The only thing working against Edwards is his lack of experience.  He also has a bad track record in the senate, but his ideas are great, and he\'s someone that actually relates to the people.

I thought the his best moment was at the beginning of the debate when he said something along the lines of "you have not been straight with the people."

He\'s right, we have been conned into believing so much crap over the years.

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Originally posted by Titan
Agreed. Edwards I think wouldn\'t be too bad of a president. Maybe 2008?

SO you are not only saying that the democrats are going to lose, but you are going to assume that Mrs. Clinton won\'t be your candidate in 2008?  You don\'t see the Clintons a whole lot right now do you?  I wouldn\'t be surprised if they vote republican.

Very interesting debate after the pissing match of the first 30 minutes or so.  I don\'t have a favorite as of right now but I feel  both represented their candidate as well as engaging in substantial debate.  I\'ll have more thought on this later when I find a transcript and read it over.  

All I can conclude is that the presedential race would be a hell of lot more interesting, for myself, if it was Cheney vs. Edwards.

Cheney > Edwards.  

Cheney totally outclassed and outspoke Edwards.  John Edwards showed the American public the lack of experience and the lack of a true plan on foreign policy that the Kerry ticket has.  This is the type of debate Bush should have done.  Cheney was composed and I was quite impressed.  I was almost expecting Edwards to start saying "I object your honor!" at certain points.  I also had deja vu on a lot Edwards was saying... I was thinking to myself during Edwards first answer that I had heard that exact same thing before... it is like Edwards too Kerry\'s exact same lines...

I came away being less impressed with Edwards over all - I really was expecting Cheney to lose the debate.  I wouldn\'t feel too comfortable with Edwards being one step away from being President.  His lack of experience is too obvious. Cheney won on content and style end of story.  

Though Edwards didn\'t do anything too bad - other than trying to interupt on one occasion - Cheney did more good for the Bush campaign than Edwards did for the Kerry campaign.

Memorable Cheney quotes:

"...but you weren\'t there to vote for it."

"The troops wouldn\'t have what they have today if you had your way."

"If you can\'t stand up to Howard Dean, how can you stand up to Al Qaeda?"

"You cannot succeed in this effort if you will not recognize their [the Iraqis\']contributions... "

"Zarqawi was in Baghdad before the war, and after the war, andwe have to deal with him by taking him out and that\'s what we will do."

"Five days after we captured Saaddam, Qaddafi surrendered his nuclear materials. "

"First time I ever met you is when you walked on the stage tonight."

"I can think of a lot of words to describe Senator Kerry\'s response on Iraq and consistent isn\'t one of them."

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I think that Cheney took this one in terms of trying to fix what Bush screwed up during the presidential debate. But Edwards won in terms of the message and re-inforcing what his campaign is trying to do. Cheney was just there to cover up for the Bush\'s show during his debate with Kerry.

Cheney kept bringing up Edwards-Kerry voting record which is probably what he was told to do. Edwards just kept bitch-slapping him back with CURRENT issues which is what I cared about and probably the rest of the viewers.

I can\'t believe Cheney said he had never suggested that Al-Quaeda was linked with Hussain.


And his education program that he talked about. The whole low ranking schools have the option of allowing their students to transfer to a better schools IS BULLSHIT.

Why? Because here in Dallas we are dealing with that right now.

More than 6 of our HS have been rated low. And alot of their kids are applying to tranfer to our school. No, and it shouln\'t happen. I had to apply to this school. Write a paper. Pass test. And all they have to do is be part of a shitty school? How is that going to help us if they come to our school unprepared and not ready for the challenges my school has? How does that educate them better?

And you know why they have been rated low? It\'s not only academic wise but also that they don\'t have enough money to get programs that the Gov. requires. They might be missing a class here and there that has nothing to do with the students actually doing good in school.

Also 3 of the HS here are full of substitute teachers. All the teachers have left and found a better job at Highland Park ISD and Richardson ISD.

Those I found quite interesting however Edwards made some good points I\'ve been waiting to hear.  The "flip flops" that the Bush administration has done was brought up in full effect and shows that Bush isn\'t as steadfast as he\'d have you believe and that Kerry isn\'t so bad in this regard.  They\'re both guilty and hopefully this whole "flip flop" crap can be dropped.

There are quite a few instances where I thought each man had his moment.  I\'ll wait to find a transcript before I go further in to this.

Originally posted by SirMystiq
I think that Cheney took this one in terms of trying to fix what Bush screwed up during the presidential debate. But Edwards won in terms of the message and re-inforcing what his campaign is trying to do. Cheney was just there to cover up for the Bush\'s show during his debate with Kerry.

Cheney kept bringing up Edwards-Kerry voting record which is probably what he was told to do. Edwards just kept bitch-slapping him back with CURRENT issues which is what I cared about and probably the rest of the viewers.

That is what people go by Misstiq.  Voting records.  Kerry and Edwards both have terrible ones - or in the case of Senator "Gone" don\'t have one at all.  Cheney won and totally outclassed Edwards.  Edwards was clearly ruffled numerous times and lost his composure at least once.  Cheney did not.

Edwards point on Cheney supporting cutting programs was totally out of context.  Of course Cheney supported cutting certain weapons programs - it was the end of the Cold War!

One positive for Edwards.  He did do a good immitation of a Kerry parrot.