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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2000, 09:54:50 PM »
maybe we could pull the xbox apart and use the p3 and Nvidia gpu in our coms.. lol hehe j/k
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« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2000, 10:29:44 PM »
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YOUR OPINION.  That\'s it.  There are plenty of good games coming.  My god man, there are 350 developers.  Even with just 6 months (it IS a year), there would be some amazing PS2 titles.  Besides that, you forget the other advantages of the headstart.  More time for marketing, more time to get systems in stores.


  Developers have known about the PS2 since March of 1999 and they got development kits later, but the fact is that if there are 350 developers, why haven\'t they released any titles before Christmas.  If you haven\'t noticed there is a drought of PS2 games until March of 2001.  Thats almost six months after the USA launch of the PS2 dude.  Most of the titles out now are from EA.  It was basically an EA launch for the PS2.  A lot of the problems is that the PS2 is still hard to program for and the games have been delayed because of that reason.  I saw a few commercials from Sony, but Sony didn\'t really have to spend a lot to advertise because the media did it for them.  Arrogance isn\'t pretty dude.... :)

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Just forum freaks like us.  Casual gamers don\'t give a damn about XBox; they know nothing of it until the commercials hit.  And casuals are 80% of the gaming base (at least).  Gamecube has a better shot than XBox - at least some people had the N64 and recognize Nintendo\'s FRANCHISES.  What are the XBox\'s franchises?  Sorry?  Halo?  Oddworld (yeah, it did well on PSX)?  A bunch of Sony hand me downs to be released later? (MGS, FF)  No... XBox\'s exclusives are still new to the casuals.  They have to make a name for themselves before dominating anything, and it takes a little while to get your own "franchise" games.  The "truth" is this: PSX sold 40 million in the US.  PS2 has 350 developers.  Casual gamers KNOW Sony\'s franchises.  Why in the hell would they wait an extra year?  Microsofter\'s who want to keep up the silly domination angle need to PRAY that the shortage continues for the next two years.


All gamers care about games and thats what they care about.  If another platform has better games then thats where they will go along with advertising.

Nobody knows about the franchises for the Xbox because Microsoft is holding them secret, but we will eventually.  If they have some good ones then people will buy the xbox.  It doesn\'t matter if you don\'t like it or not, people will buy it if it has good games. :)

The PSX sold 40 million over six years and after prices dropped and because there were no other good choices, that doesn\'t mean that the PS2 will sell nearly as well, lots of competition this time unlike last time and games sell consoles, if PS2 ends up with games like GameDay 2001, no matter if it was PS2 or not its going to stop selling, games and advertising are everything, the console with the best games and the best advertising wins, end of story.


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« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2000, 11:08:59 PM »
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Kimathi, I\'m sorry I was so offensive at first. I got the impression you were a X-Box fanboy. Of course its ok for someone to have an opinion, just not here(j/k). I apoligize. However, there is one thing that myself, and as far as I know everyone else on this forum hates and that is seeing a complete newbie insult a regular. In other words, you have to kiss but your first few months ;) Nah, I\'m just kidding. But don\'t act like a a$$hole or like Chrono, one of the most well known and liked people on this board(you see, like that), you will banned before you get to 10 posts.


BTW: I know you were being sarcastic but trust me, over time you will LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE this board. :)

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apology accepted snake, and i\'m sorry we got off on the wrong foot and i really  was not trying to insult anyone. btw, i was not being sarcastic i like it here, it\'s my kinda place. i will be dropping by from time to time to see how fellow gamers think irregardless of platforms b/c after all, we all love video gaming! thx guys for your time, cya  

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« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2000, 03:05:38 AM »
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maybe we could pull the xbox apart and use the p3 and Nvidia gpu in our coms.. lol hehe j/k

LOL, yeah!

That way we could get a cheap super-chip from nVidea, RAM, harddrive, PIII processor etc. :laughing:
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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2000, 03:18:34 AM »
Do u know what would be really funny.. If you got a xbox. Opened it... Then saw a motherboard with the Graphics card slotted into a AGP slot. haha.. And the CPU was Socket 7 haha.. That would be a classic. If the Mem was in Simms. :D

Man i would be building a  new pc with it. :D

But no this won\'t happen.
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« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2000, 03:20:54 AM »
No, unfortunatly not. ;)

It would have been funny though!
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« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2000, 05:57:19 AM »
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i have carefully researched both consoles to MY satisfaction and i believe i am making an informed decision based on what appeals to me.


Well then, you are not a casual gamer; you\'re an informed consumer.  Seriously, if casual gamers didn\'t buy into hype, then why in the world is the PS2 doing so well when the Dreamcast has a better library?  I\'ll tell you why: recognition.  Besides that, you seem to be making an informed decision based on power.  PS2 hasn\'t shown you anything that interests you yet.  Have you looked at future releases?  By the time XBox launches, the PS2 will have over 150 titles... the XBox, maybe 40.  Besides, you have no idea what the XBox launch holds.  Hell, for all you know, the PS2 may have 20 games you want by Fall 2001.

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why haven\'t they released any titles before Christmas. If you haven\'t noticed there is a drought of PS2 games until March of 2001.


Right now there\'s over 40 titles.  They are delaying titles until March because, well, nobody has a PS2.  There\'s a shortage.  Why release all the titles now so they can be forgotten by the time the new systems arrive?  They won\'t make money over Christmas.  Nintendo pulls the same trick.

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All gamers care about games and thats what they care about. If another platform has better games then thats where they will go along with advertising.


This argument bugs me for two reasons.  1: you don\'t know what games XBox will have.  Sony has 350 developers and you have no idea what XBox\'s finalized launch list is.  Not only that, but by the time XBox arrives, the PS2 will pull a Dreamcast and have a library of over 150 games.  How can you argue games are all that matters when you are passing up on both the Dreamcast (175 games) and PS2 (40+ games, 350 developers) because of the XBox\'s specs?  Hell, we don\'t even know what XBox will cost.

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The PSX sold 40 million over six years and after prices dropped and because there were no other good choices, that doesn\'t mean that the PS2 will sell nearly as well, lots of competition this time unlike last time and games sell consoles


See my response above about games.  I\'m not saying that PS2 will dominate.  It won\'t, plain and simple.  And, there is no way in HELL that the XBox will dominate.  PERIOD.  This is Microsoft\'s first console.  Your first entry into the industry is a chance to make yourself - and your franchises - visible to gamers.  But you\'re not going to step in and dominate.  NES did it, but what was their competition?  SMS?  PSX did it, but again, NO COMPETITION.  XBox won\'t fail, and they won\'t dominate.  As far as the 40 million: that\'s 40 million people that KNOW Sony, that KNOW/previously played Sony\'s exclusive titles.  They are not guaranteed sales, but they\'ve all heard of Sony and enjoyed their titles.  You don\'t get consumer trust with $500 million in marketing and 100 million polygons.  You earn it.

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the console with the best games and the best advertising wins, end of story


Again, you ASSUME that the XBox will have better games.  Why?  How do you know?  You don\'t.  PS2 may have the best games.  Dreamcast may have the best games.  Gamecube\'s launch may kick XBox\'s list squarely in the nards.  Hell, Gamecube may win.  Out of all 4 consoles, Sony has the biggest advantage with those 40 million consumers.  I get so frustrated when people who know nothing of XBox\'s games (which haven\'t been finalized) come in here and assume XBox has won.  Um, no.  PS2 has a tremendous headstart to build up a library, to build up a userbase, and to market their machine.  (Dreamcast has a 2 year headstart)  Not to mention the fact that 40 million people already have a Sony machine - you can\'t say that counts for nothing.  XBox is NOT guaranteed to win.  They ARE guaranteed NOT to dominate.  But the winner of the war is still up for grabs.  You just don\'t give a company like Sony a headstart.

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« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2000, 06:08:26 AM »
Surely not a company like Sony to get a headstart, they know the gaming business pretty well now, only been in it for 5 or 6 years, and they know the strings to pull.  That\'s why they grabbed 350 developers, that\'s why they are relaunching(for the casual gamer)so that people can keep the hype fresh.

Sony knows what they are doing.

And read the post above me for a better explanation.
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