What does everyone think of GBA?

I\'m sorry to see all these \'3D whores\' on here. I love my 20 mpps running @ 60fps with FSAA, anisotropic filtering, bump mapping, and using 1024x1024 size textures, but would I like to see that on a 3" screen? Hell no.

Again I ask, was the Saturn/PSX/N64 your first console? Have you forgotten 2D gaming? If you can\'t appreciate 2D goodness, well, too bad.

This post isn\'t directed @ a single person. Just those who say 2D should be dead.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

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Originally posted by datamage
I\'m sorry to see all these \'3D whores\' on here. I love my 20 mpps running @ 60fps with FSAA, anisotropic filtering, bump mapping, and using 1024x1024 size textures, but would I like to see that on a 3" screen? Hell no.

Again I ask, was the Saturn/PSX/N64 your first console? Have you forgotten 2D gaming? If you can\'t appreciate 2D goodness, well, too bad.

This post isn\'t directed @ a single person. Just those who say 2D should be dead.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

I feel the same man. Exactly the same.

If you add a backlit and so on, they will eat your batteries.

Not if you use the latest tech out there, plus use Lithium Ion.  2d gaming is cool, but I would like to move on.

Oh and another thing with the LCD screen being small, enlarge it a little, and if one where to use a TNT2 chip all it\'s effects could be seen on a little lcd screen. It\'s only if you expect a geforce 2 or whatever to be seen on a little screen, your dreaming.

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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing


Not if you use the latest tech out there, plus use Lithium Ion.  2d gaming is cool, but I would like to move on.

Oh and another thing with the LCD screen being small, enlarge it a little, and if one where to use a TNT2 chip all it\'s effects could be seen on a little lcd screen. It\'s only if you expect a geforce 2 or whatever to be seen on a little screen, your dreaming.

Why would someone want 3D on a handheld tho? Lets overlook the batteries issue, and screen.

You need more buttons. More buttons will make it either cramped or bigger. Either way, it will be uncomfortable for alot of people. You also will need an analog stick. Where are you goin\' to put  one of those on a handheld without gettin rid of the D-PAD totally? And do we want an analog stick on a handheld? It will be 10x more likely to get broken (the stick).

As for likin\' to move on from 2D gaming. 2D gaming has been done to perfection. Which means, for the most parts we can now finally enjoy beautifuly crafted 2D games. 3D still is problematic for alot of developers. And its been over 5 years now. Anyways, after another 5 years of 3D, where are you goin\' to move to then?
Both serve their purposes.

Yes both do serve there purposes, but again the whole battery issue can be solved with lithium.

Oh and I forgot to mention the analog stick, I think that would rock to put on on.

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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Yes both do serve there purposes, but again the whole battery issue can be solved with lithium.

Oh and I forgot to mention the analog stick, I think that would rock to put on on.

Yeah, it would. \'Cept if you are carrying a portable system around and you drop it the chances of the analog stick breaking are very high.

By the way, you can\'t backlight the GBA, because of the SHARPLCD. as it is reflective only, any light that goes thru the LCD will just fade ("Wash") the pixels out.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

Yeah, it would. \'Cept if you are carrying a portable system around and you drop it the chances of the analog stick breaking are very high.

By the way, you can\'t backlight the GBA, because of the SHARPLCD. as it is reflective only, any light that goes thru the LCD will just fade ("Wash") the pixels out.

Well, the neo geo pocket color had an analog stick instead of a digital D-Pad.
I\'ve never heard of anyone breaking their\'s . . . although I must admit, I always imagined a good fall would be all she wrote for the controls . . .

And no, you can\'t backlight the reflective screen. However, a light source ould be placed above the screen, under that crappy protective plate,  which would sove the problem nicely. Still, that falls under the battery drain issues. :boom:

On the topic of playing 3d games on a small screen.

A few years ago, while spending time with my relatives, I needed some gaming to help kill the time. I brought my PSX, but had no TV I could hook it up to. So, being the clever person I am, I hooked the system up to my view cam . . . I imagine someone at Sony did the same and came up with the PSone screen add on years latter.

Anyway, playing games on this screen was possible and provided much needed entertainment. But, it wasn\'t something I would want to be forced to do as my only means of playing the console.

Most games were just bothersome to play in 3D on such a small screen, which is by far, larger than any portable screen to date. The problem was the games weren\'t intended to viewed on such a small scale. Too much was on screen at once, and . . .
oh hell, it just wasn\'t that great. Go try it for yourself.

I spent the whole time Playing Castlevania SOTN, which played like a dream. And why did it play so well? Because the on screen graphics we\'re a fixed size, highly detailed and smooth.

Sure we could have 3D games on a portable, but we would need a screen at least twice as large, which would have to be backlit. Otherwise, the experience is more trouble than its worth. Currently, the technology to do so is too costly.

I don\'t know about you guys, but I don\'t want to have a technological step forward which coppies the mistakes of the past. The days of $300.00 portables which eat up batteries like candy are gone, and I\'d like it to stay that way.

Frodo

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Originally posted by Frodo



Sure we could have 3D games on a portable, but we would need a screen at least twice as large, which would have to be backlit. Otherwise, the experience is more trouble than its worth. Currently, the technology to do so is too costly.

I don\'t know about you guys, but I don\'t want to have a technological step forward which coppies the mistakes of the past. The days of $300.00 portables which eat up batteries like candy are gone, and I\'d like it to stay that way.

Frodo

Exactly. The buisnesses also know this. You cannot have a succesful handheld that will cost $300 dollars and eat up batteries. Yes, you could move to lithium batteries, but still does not help the fact, that if you add all this \'flash\' and power, you will end up with a more expensive handheld .

What flash and power, a tnt2 chip is no gefore my friends. Also the lcd screens on the camcorders suck, and considering you did this years ago technology in lcd has changed greatly.

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Also the lcd screens on the camcorders suck, and considering you did this years ago technology in lcd has changed greatly.

Regardless, the point I made remains. I don\'t care if you get them to use one of the new high res transflective screens, 3D on a small screen is a pain.

The only way its going to look good and play well is if they do the following:

1. Supply a large, backlit high res screen. That alone will drive the cost up.

2. Make the games with portables in mind. Meaning the on screen graphics are developed specifically to run on a tiny little monitor. This will translate into less happening on screen, or lmited amounts of 3D interaction.

I reiterate, I don\'t believe the increase in resolution between that of my view cam, and new screen technology, will automatically solve these issues. The games, if made to be at least on par with PSX, will translate badly to a small screen.

Until this hurdle is cleared, it would be a poor decision to release such a device out onto the market. It may be innovative, it may be damn cool and it may bring a new next gen experience to the handheld market . . . but so did every other portable which couldn\'t sustain itself in the market place.  

Frodo

Just give it time . . . you\'ll get what you want.

I\'m happy with mine. My only gripe is that Castlevania isn\'t out here yet. F-Zero kicks some major butt too, though.

Oh yeah... and I got the last GBA in town... and... it\'s pink. It\'s kinda cute

First off I must say that I love my GBA. Selling Snes was one of the worst mistakes I have done - as I have learned that the games on that dear console were the BEST of the rest. They were filled with Magic - and that\'s what I\'m seeking with GBA. And to this moment, GBA has brought me the good ol\' Nintendo Magic wich I love so much.

2d might be dead, but not for me. The old Snes-classics are far better than ANY new game, I must say. And when I bought GBA, I bought it because I wanted a portable Snes - and now I see I\'m getting much more. Mario Advance wins hands down every PS2 game in atmosphere - I just haven\'t played much my PS2. But GBA is the dream-come-true to all my gaming needs...

I don\'t care \'bout the dark screen - I have light-sources all over my house, and summer is bright so you can play the handheld outside as well.

I don\'t care how much better GBA would\'ve been - as if it would be better, I wouldn\'t have bought it. I want to experience the Snes-classics again - and NOT trough some emulator, but a portable console.

I give GBA 9/10.

All this talk of 3d on a small screen reminded me of something we did at school once. It was the end of term, and a couple of up ahd brought in N64s. Thing was, there was only 1 TV to use. But someone else had one of those portable TVs along with them. So with a bit of blu tak we managed to attach the RF lead to the TVs\'s aerial and we had Goldeneye running on a 2 inch screen. So what did we do? We tried playing a 3 player game. I had to guess what options to set, and if it wasn\'t for auto aim I don\'t know how we would have got any kills. We didn\'t play long, the others gave up after about a minute. But it was fun to see GE on such a small screen.

Anyway, I\'ve had my GBA since March and it wasn\'t until the US release that I heard anything about the screen being too dark. I honestly never had a problem with the level of light on the screen. So I can\'t play with the lights out. It\'s not something I often need to do.

2D games though, you have to love them. Any mention of Metroid always get\'s me excited, a GBA version even more so. There are a number of 2D treasures of recent eyars that people have simply written off and being old. I\'m happy to see that all this 2D loveliness still around now has a home.

the one problem I have with Game Boy Advance is that the games that are coming out for the system are gonna require a little more to play them like Street Fighter 2 Turbo. How can you play it with 2 buttons.

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Originally posted by smokedogg
the one problem I have with Game Boy Advance is that the games that are coming out for the system are gonna require a little more to play them like Street Fighter 2 Turbo. How can you play it with 2 buttons.

There is four buttons on the GBA and Capcom has worked out a control scheme for them. Don\'t worry.