PS2 #1, but who will be #2?

I think that we can all agree that each new console that comes out will have taken something from an older console and improve upon it.  So though sometimes we don\'t like to admit it, xbox has some better features and has not made some of the same mistakes that PS2 did.  And that the title of innovative goes to the one that made more profound improvements on certain aspects of gaming consoles.

I was just telling you what they have been doing because it sounded like didn\'t know that MS was "bribing" Developers to make games and put then on their system. Only to have them ported....

I hear ya XBOX, I really don\'t care which console will be Number one, cause to me THE PC is #1. Yes folks at heart I am a PC gamer.

I love PCs for Strategy games. Strats never really work well on consoles.

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
I hear ya XBOX, I really don\'t care which console will be Number one, cause to me THE PC is #1. Yes folks at heart I am a PC gamer.

The only thing about PC gaming is that it\'s improved upon all the time.  In one years time my $3000 computer can\'t play some of the newest games at peak performance.  At least with a console it\'s only a tenth of the price and if I can deal without getting the competing consoles have a steady flow of the greatest quality for about 3+ years.

Last Generation it seemed that the graphics were always behind on the PC games. Now they are right at par with the new games comming out in 2 to 3 years.

I was just telling you what they have been doing because it sounded like didn\'t know that MS was "bribing" Developers to make games and put then on their system. Only to have them ported....

Again,  like sony doesn\'t bribe developers either, huh?
It\'s business,  call it bribing, or whatever you want SONY and MS probably even Nintendo do this all the time.

So many things said, I cant reply to them all, so I\'ll say this:

Tril- Your \'just like a PC\' arguments were ****, mine were fine. I gave you 2 for XB having the things, but the act of having something already in a consoles no correlation to a PC. Upgrading is a total correlation. Having images on a screen was just a retarded argument...

I don\'t care if your convinced about patches. Lie/ stay ignorant forever, It doesn\'t affect me. I know they said it. Many other people do. When it doesn\'t happen, you\'ll know it.


And Sony\'s controller every step of the way was a rip off.

1-Original PSX pad=SNES controller, with 2 extra shoulder buttons and handles thrown on.

2-Dual Analog=Took N64\'s analog idea, and doubled it.

3-Dual Shock=added rumble after Nintendo made the rumble pack

4-Dual Shock 2=saw Sega\'s analog triggers and said, \'we can top that\', making every button analog.

Need further explanation?

Originally posted by JediMaster
But this time its to everyone at 100%.....

?? If your talking about MS \'buying\' games... so what? The companies aren\'t refusing. Be as mad at the companies as MS...

But this time its to everyone at 100%.....

Post No. 69;)

Originally posted by Krimson
So many things said, I cant reply to them all, so I\'ll say this:

Tril- Your \'just like a PC\' arguments were ****, mine were fine. I gave you 2 for XB having the things, but the act of having something already in a consoles no correlation to a PC. Upgrading is a total correlation. Having images on a screen was just a retarded argument...

I don\'t care if your convinced about patches. Lie/ stay ignorant forever, It doesn\'t affect me. I know they said it. Many other people do. When it doesn\'t happen, you\'ll know it.


And Sony\'s controller every step of the way was a rip off.

1-Original PSX pad=SNES controller, with 2 extra shoulder buttons and handles thrown on.

2-Dual Analog=Took N64\'s analog idea, and doubled it.

3-Dual Shock=added rumble after Nintendo made the rumble pack

4-Dual Shock 2=saw Sega\'s analog triggers and said, \'we can top that\', making every button analog.

Need further explanation?

And I thought I would get to sleep early!  (It\'s 2:00 AM now.)

The whole reason I made those crappy PC arguments was to sarcastically show you that this argument about one console being more like a PC is completely relative to schools of thought.  I was to never have you take them seriously, as I do not take yours seriously.

About the patches and "When it doesn\'t happen, you\'ll know it." - proving someone wrong must be doning by showing what has been done, not by when something doesn\'t happen.  For us to fully end this argument we\'ll have to wait for xbox to become docile.

My point about the patches thing is that it is a shame if they don\'t provide patches, then they\'d have to come up with a new system, then just making a cheap upgrade patch.  And for the most part, software patches would be a great way to fix in-game problems, instaed of just saying "tough, deal with it," they can fix it and make all their consumers happy.

Rip-off(noun): a cheap imitaion (Merriam-Webster)
rip off = the verb form.

So, by taking an idea and manipulating it as to not infringe on a patent is not ripping off.  SONY, just like Nintendo, and Sega, and so-on, did not rip pff the previous designs of their predecessors.

Originally posted by Troglodyte


And I thought I would get to sleep early!  (It\'s 2:00 AM now.)

The whole reason I made those crappy PC arguments was to sarcastically show you that this argument about one console being more like a PC is completely relative to schools of thought.  I was to never have you take them seriously, as I do not take yours seriously.

About the patches and "When it doesn\'t happen, you\'ll know it." - proving someone wrong must be doning by showing what has been done, not by when something doesn\'t happen.  For us to fully end this argument we\'ll have to wait for xbox to become docile.

My point about the patches thing is that it is a shame if they don\'t provide patches, then they\'d have to come up with a new system, then just making a cheap upgrade patch.  And for the most part, software patches would be a great way to fix in-game problems, instaed of just saying "tough, deal with it," they can fix it and make all their consumers happy.

Rip-off(noun): a cheap imitaion (Merriam-Webster)
rip off = the verb form.

So, by taking an idea and manipulating it as to not infringe on a patent is not ripping off.  SONY, just like Nintendo, and Sega, and so-on, did not rip pff the previous designs of their predecessors.

1-Just like it would be a shame if Sony did... I read it in a interview, and until they go back on what was said, I believe them. What you believe is of no importance. I was just trying to enlighten you, but you want me to waste hours pouring through interviews to give you a link. I emailed the chaps at TeamXbox, and will see if they respond, and know which interview Fries or Allard said it in, but if they don\'t, I still stand by what I read.

2-Stealing a idea is the same as ripping off an idea. I don\'t care what Mr. Webster thinks, most people would understand that phrase, and know what I mean, so it\'s valid. I won\'t argue semantics over a phrases meaning. Sony stole every controller design they had, plain and simple. I don\'t care either. I brought it up to contrast the bashing of XB\'s equally uninspired controller.

Originally posted by Krimson
And Sony\'s controller every step of the way was a rip off.

1-Original PSX pad=SNES controller, with 2 extra shoulder buttons and handles thrown on.

2-Dual Analog=Took N64\'s analog idea, and doubled it.

3-Dual Shock=added rumble after Nintendo made the rumble pack

4-Dual Shock 2=saw Sega\'s analog triggers and said, \'we can top that\', making every button analog.

Need further explanation?

What\'s your point?  They took the best things from the SNES, N64, and Dreamcast, and they made the world\'s best controller.  I can seriously see them turning all of their shoulder buttons into Nintendo\'s "2 buttons in 1 button" for the PS3 controller.  It is smart business, not stealing.

What\'s your point? They took the best things from the SNES, N64, and Dreamcast, and they made the world\'s best controller.

You forgot to add IMO to that.

I can seriously see them turning all of their shoulder buttons into Nintendo\'s "2 buttons in 1 button" for the PS3 controller.

That\'s called stealing Ironfist.

 

It is smart business, not stealing.

One thing is for sure- they\'re control aren\'t innovative!

Well Iron, if you read my follow-up post, you would have your answer... and thus eliminated the need to make a uneccesary post.

Originally posted by Jumpman

You forgot to add IMO to that.


That\'s called stealing Ironfist.

 
One thing is for sure- they\'re control aren\'t innovative!

I think it\'s understood that people\'s post are IMO.  It\'s not like Bush is breathing down my neck, forcing me to type crap.

By patent law it\'s not stealing.

And by combining the best elements of other controllers, it is innovative.