I have gone off Nintendo

I used to love them....in the old SNES days. They made wonderful, wonderful games, and the SNES was full of different genres...fighting games, arcade games, shoot \'em ups. Everything. And the SNES had a huge library of games, as it was the system of choice. But what happened? The N64 turns up. With the old outdated cartridge system, so developers had less space to work in...with blurry, pathetic textures. With hardly any fighting games. With hardly any thirdparty support. With kiddy games..not cartoony, cute, fun-styled games, for everyone, like on the the SNES, but embarassing childish piles of nonsense. Oh, and where are the RPGS? The adventure games? (A la Broken Sword style) The fighting games? And what about some proper sound quality please, OK?

But I was prepared to give them a second chance. The GamCube. But I should have realised things were going wrong when I saw the design. A pink/purple lunchbox anyone?? And the games....tsk, tsk. I know it\'s early days, but its looking pretty bleak. Luigis Mansion looks, well, cack. There doesn\'t seem to be much to do except catch ghosts with your hoover. Nice graphics, though. And what about two greatest games on the N64 , Zelda and Mario? Where are their innotive sequels?? Where are the adult games? Why are loads of games that are going to X-Box and PS2 not reaching gamecube? Where is the massive thirdparty support the SNES had? No fighting games except Super Smash Bros? Why is the next Metroid game so dissappointing? C\'mone Nintendo, please!

Having a game console abortion, are we?

In the argument you just released, the best action for you would be to wait, and see if any games that appeal to you come out, then buy the system.

Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the console at launch.

Let the thing be born, then if you don\'t want it, give it up for adoption.

Remember ! when the big N launches a console they want ppl
to know/love it because of it\'s 1st party games. You can expect
some good 3rd party games at spaceshow or what\'s it called ...

Before my Ps2 I had a N64. Goldeneye 007 :masterpiece. Diddy
K racing : lotsa multiplayer fun.
But somehow I have to agree. The N64 was a letdown for me.
I liked the plastic casing/controller though ! You can expect NGC
to be what N64 failed to be, at least to some extent. ( yeah now
it\'s the casing I don\'t like ).
And be aware , Nintendo is gonna have the Momentum real soon.
That combined with more whining PS2 devs : could give Sony a tough competition. Then I haven\'t even mentioned XBOX.....

Knotter8

i dont care if you dont like them...

I was getting worried, no one has insulting Nintendo like this is a long time.

With the old outdated cartridge system, so developers had less space to work in...with blurry, pathetic textures.

Those games were all made by 3rd parties. Rare\'s and Nintendo\'s games actually took advantage of the hardware, barely any of them had blurry textures or fog.

In fact, let\'s end the whole fog argument right now. Listen up Ryu and datadamage(forgot your name, sue me) because you two were complaining about it in another topic.

None of Nintendo\'s or Rare\'s game had annoying fog. NONE. I played them all so I should know.

Mario 64 had none.
Zelda:OOT and MM and none.
Mario Kart had none.
Wave Race had 1 level with fog)Drake Lake), and it wasn\'t so it could hide pop-up because th backrounds were plain.
Goldeneye had 1 level with fog(Jungle).
Perfect Dark had none.
Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie has none.
Blast Corps had none.
Jet Force Gemeni had none.
Conker, the best looking game of last generation, had none.
Star Fox had none.
Diddy Kong Racing had none.
Donkey Kong64 had some in one level but the game still looked great.
1080 had none.

The fog argument is officially dead.

Next time one of you idiots complains about the fact that a lot of N64 games had fog, blame it on the imcompetent third parties like Acclaim. Was Turok 1 the only game that had a lot of fog???...

With hardly any thirdparty support.

Didn\'t need any.

With kiddy games..not cartoony, cute, fun-styled games, for everyone, like on the the SNES, but embarassing childish piles of nonsense.

Name these games.  

The adventure games? (A la Broken Sword style)

PSX didn\'t have them either smart ass.

But I should have realised things were going wrong when I saw the design. A pink/purple lunchbox anyone??

Who cares what it ****ing looks like? As long as it has good games then I\'m happy.

The black and silver GameCube looks awesome and last time I checked Nintendo is planning to use those colours at launch.

And the games....tsk, tsk. I know it\'s early days, but its looking pretty bleak. Luigis Mansion looks, well, cack. There doesn\'t seem to be much to do except catch ghosts with your hoover. Nice graphics, though.

One example? LOL! KESSEN IS CRAP! THEREFOR THE PS2 LAUNCH SUXXORS!!!

Do you really think the whole concept of the game will be to just catch ghosts?

Miyamoto, the lead programmer, the most respected and talented game developer in the world, is fully behind this project. And he\'s not an idiot. He\'s not going to release a game like that. Plus, the game has supposedly been in development for 18 months. Could this be the potential Super Mario 64 2? Maybe, but why don\'t you ****ing wait till some reviews come in before you judge it. Sheeeesh.

And what about two greatest games on the N64 , Zelda and Mario? Where are their innotive sequels??

Both of them are coming out next year. Can\'t wait that long? Ha. You\'ve been waiting a lot longer for some good games to start appearing on PS2 so I think you can have a little patience.

Where are the adult games?

Too Human(can\'t wait for this one)
Eternal Darkness
Thornado
RE:0
Rogue Leader
NBA Street
SSX Tricky
Madden 2002(hey 3rd party support this time!)
PSOV2
ect ect I can and could go on but you get the point.

Actually, the games that can be enjoyed by adults out-number the supposed kiddy games.

Kiddy argument for GameCube=dead.

Why are loads of games that are going to X-Box and PS2 not reaching gamecube?

Why are loads of games that are going to GameCube not reaching PS2 and Xbox? BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN EXCLUSIVE HITS.

Where is the massive thirdparty support the SNES had?

1. There is a lot of 3rd party support for GameCube so far.
2. Nintendo\'s 1st and 2nd party games are enough.
3. Their franchises are too hard to compete with.

No fighting games except Super Smash Bros?

Namco is onboard, so NGC should get a Tekken 4 or SC 2 port. But fighting games will be absent on NGC probably. But that\'s why peolpe own more than 1 system.

Why is the next Metroid game so dissappointing?

Have you played it or seen it in motion? NO. And neither has anyone else. I suggest all of you save your negative and biased opinions on this game until you see it for yourselves. \'Nuff said about Metroid.

C\'mone Nintendo, please!

My post should hopefully knock some sense into you.

Whoa !!!
Jumpman is on fire again !   speaker speaks loud : " And there
Jumpman jumps! ,and there it is ;BOOM 360* slamdunk
in your face !

LOL

Knotter8

Originally posted by Knotter8
Whoa !!!
Jumpman is on fire again !   speaker speaks loud : " And there
Jumpman jumps! ,and there it is ;BOOM 360* slamdunk
in your face !

LOL

Knotter8

I like my abortion / adoption analogy better!  

See this thread serves nothing, because its basing The GameCube\'s success on the N64.  Like saying the Dreamcast was doomed by the Saturn.  Not really.  

 The GameCube is planned to appeal to first time gamers, so what? That doesn\'t mean First time gamers DON\'T Need Great games.  So you don\'t like the outer casing? WHAT ARE YOU Some Effeminate Loser who wants a console to match your wardrobe. Jizze Crizzie, who really cares? Like your gonna carry your GameCube around w/ you.

Berating a console because of its outer casing..you do not need to play games anymore. I renounce your gamership.  Turn in your controllers And Leave, NOW!

And why are we attacking the N64 now...its life span is over. It is. A new system has been premiered and most developers have moved on to the new platforms...WHY are we still entertaining issues about the LAST GENERATION When a NEW ONE is Upon Us? Good Lord!! Has the world gone Topsy-Turvy?

Mannnn ! I say something positive about NGC, but I say I just
don\'t like the casing that much and see what angry reactions
follow !
C\'mon lighten up. BTW some ppl don\'t care what kinda shoes
they\'re wearing, some ppl do. Some ppl want consumer electronincs with classy casings. Hell, I won\'t bother anymore....


And to Troglodyte : let\'s hear some comedians decide who\'s reply
was more laughs  
\'abortion\' + \'console\'? What is birth of a console then ? A console
coming out of a womans v****a !! LOL      

Knotter8

Originally posted by Knotter8
And to Troglodyte : let\'s hear some comedians decide who\'s reply
was more laughs  
\'abortion\' + \'console\'? What is birth of a console then ? A console
coming out of a womans v****a !! LOL      

Knotter8

Not exactly what I meant.

Abortion in the fact that he\'s "giving up" on gc before it\'s even "born" to the public.

 Yeah I knew from start what you\'re talking about.
BTW remember Npresident Yamauchi stating, some time
ago, that if NGC failed to impress at this years\' E3 he\'d
\'abort\' it ?..... No it\'ll do just fine.

Sorry, I\'m going to bed now. It\'s late here in Holland 2:30 h
in the night ! Gotta get some decent sleep. :snore:

See yall around !
Knotter8

Next time one of you idiots complains about the fact that a lot of N64 games had fog, blame it on the imcompetent third parties like Acclaim. Was Turok 1 the only game that had a lot of fog???...

I forget the N64 is what gave birth to you.

ALL of Nintendo\'s games had ****ty @$$ blurry-as-hell textures with the worst resolution a 3D console can possible have. On top of that, the most unstable framerates that can make anyone puke. So before you call anyone an idiot go and play those pathetic and weak games you adore. Fog wasn\'t the only problem the N64 had, it had every conceivable problem a 3D system can have. So stfu.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

Not to bash your party Datamage, but the PS1 had no AA and the Godawful jaggies everywhere!! URHH I\'ll take anything over jaggies. Since you are talking about the N64\'s textures. Where are J&D\'s textures, my God they look like ****.  Plus the PS2 can only do 1 texture layer at a time, compared to GCs 8. You shouldn\'t be talkin\', bubba.

jedimaster - you are an idiot. he was not talking about GC or Ps2, this is an N64 discussion, dummy.

And he is totally correct, Nintendo had crap textures, low polygon counts, low res, short viewpoints, and crap framereates.

For an example of this, play Goldeneye on 4 player and you will feel crawling at 15fps.

haha


Eric Jacob

Jumpman,
you truely are an ass.
No one flamed the N64 or Gamecube.
He said so far he was dissapointed.
He didnt say that "nintendo sucks ass, and so does jumpman."
Just curious, what are the release dates on those adult themed games?
And why the PS2 launch analogy?
Did he even bring up the PS2 launch?
No he didnt.
So get off your high horse,
cause apparently its so far up your suffering from a lack of oxygen and realize, NINTENDO IS NOT INFALLIBLE!
They arnt the pope, and they arnt god, and they arnt jesus christ.
So admit it.
Come on.
Just say it, NINTENDO IS NOT PERFECT.
Whew, now that wasnt so bad.
Oh yeah, maybe the 1st an 2nd party Nintendo games just arnt enough for people.
Mayvbe they want an engaging story.