X-Box will surprise you. I garrantee it.

[Bobs_Hardware]

if the leader of our fine forums says so...then it must be true...

i dont even know if what i just said was sarcasm or not...

*is stupid*

Originally posted by mm
did i ever mention that xbox = 2001 version of the 3d0 ?

Hmmm, which is as accurate as someone claiming PS2 = 2000 version of the Saturn!
(In otherwords...simply untrue)

BTW, the 3DO console was launched back in 1993 for a whooping $699!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Gee, I wonder why it failed! :rolleyes:


(I\'m off now, just passing through).

Even the staunchest PS2 whore must admit that the PS2 has more PC ports than Xbox and DC combined

If you had read correctly, he simply said ports. Not PC ports. A good chunk of X-box games are ports from existing games, or upcoming games. This is what lestat was referring to.

/ dm /

[Bobs_Hardware]

and seeing as the XBox hasnt been released...technically is doesnt have any ports

*loves having a large library of games to choose from*

Anyone that says the xbox doesn\'t impress you visually is lying and clinging too dearly to his PS2.  That is a fact.  The xbox has amazing graphics, better than anything anywhere.

On the games side I\'m not really sold either, but I wouldn\'t say I\'m completely uninterested.  There is a representative for nearly every genre.  Some are getting negative reviews (Azurik), but some are getting great reviews (Halo and DOA3).

If anyone here says they are not impressed by xbox and has either Tekken or Timesplitters/Goldeneye then again I would say you are being unfair.  The review from the lauded IGN (why does everyone here hang on their every word?) has done nothing but praise these two games calling them the best of the genre ever.

I don\'t hold IGN in that high reguard (esp. IGNPS2 in the early days *shiver*) so I\'m going to wait until I get in front of a kiosk to pass judgement because I like FPS and fighters.  (on a side note, speaking of kiosks, I did play SH2 at EB and I was let down--take into consideration that SH games are not my favourite genre though.  I think the 7 it got was fair).

All the negativity surrounding the xbox around here seems like fear and jealousy for the most part.  You know it won\'t hurt your PS2\'s feelings if you actually say nice things about another console.

The GC I have even more reservations about, but it seems to fair better in these forums.  The three games I\'ve seen, while very impressive visually, don\'t appeal to me.  People also speak of Nintendo\'s great history of games--the N64 was terrible IMO.  There were a few bright spots (Zelda, Goldeneye) but all things considered I never wished I owned it instead of my PSX.  

Will the xbox surprise me?  I hope so, because nothing save the DC has.  Am I completely sold?  No.  If two or three games have me thinking about playing them while I\'m at work or in bed, then I think I\'ll become an xbox consumer, if not I\'ll officially take a wait and see stance.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by Watchdog
Anyone that says the xbox doesn\'t impress you visually is lying and clinging too dearly to his PS2.  That is a fact.  The xbox has amazing graphics, better than anything anywhere.

its the lure of the fanboy...the console you support will always have a slight edge.  You notice things that other people dont notice.  You sit and watch and take in the whole picture, fans of other genres may just take one look and judge.  But as far as im concerned...Xbox has never made my jaw drop graphically...ill tell you what has though...only three games in history...FFX, J&D and MGS2...no XBox or GC games have had that affect on me...and no fanboyism or anyone elses opinion can change that

On the games side I\'m not really sold either, but I wouldn\'t say I\'m completely uninterested.  There is a representative for nearly every genre.  Some are getting negative reviews (Azurik), but some are getting great reviews (Halo and DOA3).

If anyone here says they are not impressed by xbox and has either Tekken or Timesplitters/Goldeneye then again I would say you are being unfair.  The review from the lauded IGN (why does everyone here hang on their every word?) has done nothing but praise these two games calling them the best of the genre ever.

and a lot of people called Final Fantasy 8 the greatest game ever.  Difference between Halo and Goldeneye.  Goldeneye was genre breaking, its recreated the FPS as we know it today.  Halo doesnt innovate...we\'ve seen everythig it has before, and unlike games such as goldeneye, will not be remmeber forever.  Tekken Tag is teh definitive fighting experience, IMO...ive never been a fan of the DoA series.  Piece of ****.  the original was NOT a good game.  the only reason it had ANY hype whatsoever was purely because of the beautiful bouncing boobies.  Second game is not my kind of thing.  Now comparing DoA3 to TTT is unfair...try commparing DoA2 to TTT and DoA3 to Tekken 4, SC2, VF4 etc. etc.

I don\'t hold IGN in that high reguard (esp. IGNPS2 in the early days *shiver*) so I\'m going to wait until I get in front of a kiosk to pass judgement because I like FPS and fighters.  (on a side note, speaking of kiosks, I did play SH2 at EB and I was let down--take into consideration that SH games are not my favourite genre though.  I think the 7 it got was fair).

its your opinion, and you obviously recognise it, which therefore means it really doesnt have much place in this post for your arguement.  but remember, playing the a demo of a game that half the reason its good is the atmosphere, at the store with bright lights and lots of people, isnt right.  turn the lights of, seclude yourself in your room, andd absorb the game

All the negativity surrounding the xbox around here seems like fear and jealousy for the most part.  You know it won\'t hurt your PS2\'s feelings if you actually say nice things about another console.

as soon as it does/gets something nice, i will compliment it, as it stands it does not interest me...and thats my opinion, not just my fanobyism for PS2 talking.

The GC I have even more reservations about, but it seems to fair better in these forums.  The three games I\'ve seen, while very impressive visually, don\'t appeal to me.  People also speak of Nintendo\'s great history of games--the N64 was terrible IMO.  There were a few bright spots (Zelda, Goldeneye) but all things considered I never wished I owned it instead of my PSX.  

anyhoo...back to the Xbox  

Will the xbox surprise me?  I hope so, because nothing save the DC has.  Am I completely sold?  No.  If two or three games have me thinking about playing them while I\'m at work or in bed, then I think I\'ll become an xbox consumer, if not I\'ll officially take a wait and see stance.

thats great, but dont go around calling pepole liars because their opinion differs to yours

Thanks bobby, I agree with everything you said

tsk, tsk, tsk bobby.

Jak and Daxter (sp?) jaw-dropified you, but Rogue Squadron, Jet Set Radio:F, or Resident Evil for GC didn\'t? Were you smoking peyote while looking at the other games (read: increasing the experience)??

The games you listed hardly impress anymore when going against the games that are coming out around the same time.


Eric Jacob

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
tsk, tsk, tsk bobby.

Jak and Daxter (sp?) jaw-dropified you, but Rogue Squadron, Jet Set Radio:F, or Resident Evil for GC didn\'t? Were you smoking peyote while looking at the other games (read: increasing the experience)??

The games you listed hardly impress anymore when going against the games that are coming out around the same time.


Eric Jacob

Need I remind you that "One Man\'s Septic Tank is Another Man\'s Hot Tub?"  Click on the link, then reply to what Bob said.

BTW, when did you turn into such an Xbox lover?  I\'m not referring to just this thread, I\'m referring to all your posts within the last week.  Wanting an Xbox is not a bad thing (I want one), but you have been acting very ati-PS2 lately.

I am not an Xbox hater, in fact i am the complete opposite, i carnt wait for the console to come out, so i can play Halo, DoA3 and Amped, ask my girlfriend i talk about it all the time, i live in the uk, but am trying very hard to get my hands on an american console when it comes out.
And looking at some of the games, that is what i think the ps2 should have looked like in the graphics department, considering all the hype, that i stupidly fell for:(  i am still wait for my toy story graphics!
But dont get me wrong there are some very good games that are starting to come out now(well in the US that is) for the ps2, and to tell you the truth i am just happy to be a gamer right now.

Originally posted by fastson


Yep.. MS said the same thing.. Was it... 1 year ago??
Something like that..

MS "Oh.. Wait for E3!"

Yes??
So??

Im still waiting.. (humming "we are the champions")
*yawn* :rolleyes:

How we soon forget!  Wait til Bouncer that game is going to rule....I also am waiting. Dark Cloud?  Still waiting.... Huge relaunch back in March....still waiting...you think people just forget about Sony\'s promises and remember all others?   Please this is a weak excuse at best since every console, at one time or another,  has had this kind of pattern.  

I personally love my PS2 mainly because I\'m a sports guy and think the best titles out there are the sports titles from EA...although ICO looks amazing and the best game to come to the PS2 in my opinion.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
tsk, tsk, tsk bobby.

Jak and Daxter (sp?) jaw-dropified you, but Rogue Squadron, Jet Set Radio:F, or Resident Evil for GC didn\'t? Were you smoking peyote while looking at the other games (read: increasing the experience)??

The games you listed hardly impress anymore when going against the games that are coming out around the same time.


Eric Jacob

jaw dropping is a bodily function out of my control Eric *giggles*...while RS is in my top 5 best looking games, i havent downloaded very many videos etc. and the ones i did download were rather spanking, but....oh well, thems the break hey, guess i just havent downloaded the jaw dropping ones...like i did with J&D...the first video i downloaded there was the main character running around...nothing special, all of a sudden he moves around silky smooth animation, silky smooth framerate, and an entire villiage type aread comes into view, waterfalls, birds buildings from miles away in view...me = jawdropped    seeing the rain bouncing of snakes shoulders and th bottles etc. smashing from gun fire, seeing the bullets hitting the bullet proof sheilds in MGS2, me = jaw dropped...FFX needs no explaination, it just looks unreal, once again, me = jaw dropped  

Res. Evil on GC, well, i have doubts as to whether or not the backgrounds are pre rendered...if they are, the graphics are good, if they arent, then the graphics are outstanding, some of the best ive seen (want to see bump mapping being put to good use).   Jet Grind Radio Future?  sorry, but im not into the whole Cell Shaded look...

Originally posted by ProfessorX


How we soon forget!  Wait til Bouncer that game is going to rule....I also am waiting. Dark Cloud?  Still waiting.... Huge relaunch back in March....still waiting...you think people just forget about Sony\'s promises and remember all others?   Please this is a weak excuse at best since every console, at one time or another,  has had this kind of pattern.  

I personally love my PS2 mainly because I\'m a sports guy and think the best titles out there are the sports titles from EA...although ICO looks amazing and the best game to come to the PS2 in my opinion.

difference is, at least PS2 has something to show for itself    personally i liked Bouncer, its 3 - 4 player multplayer fun is unrivaled by anygame, and dark cloud is one of those titles you either like or dont  .  Seams likea  pretty stupifd arguement seeing as XBox isnt even out yet, but hey, im a pretty stupid guy   and when it comes to buying a console, all those games, disappointing or not are going to go against the purchasers decision in getting an XBox

:fro: toot on

Now comparing DoA3 to TTT is unfair...try commparing DoA2 to TTT and DoA3 to Tekken 4, SC2, VF4 etc. etc.

So it\'s unfair to compare first gen xbox to first gen ps2? SO Your admitting that first gen xbox is better or on par with second gen ps2.

It\'s unfair to say oh xbox has nothing I want a launch.. when you went out and bought a ps2 that had a horrible list of launch games. Just admit you MARK OUT for a ps2 at launch and it was a big mistake and you just don\'t want to take the chance on xbox even though some of the software looks amazing.  You jut don\'twant to mark out like that again. I can\'t blame you but don\'t say the games don\'t look impressive because they do. PG,FEVER,HALO,NEW LEGENDS, DOA3, MUNCH, MOH, AMPED are all  impressive looking titles.

[Bobs_Hardware]

So it\'s unfair to compare first gen xbox to first gen ps2? SO Your admitting that first gen xbox is better or on par with second gen ps2.

of course the launch is going to be better, games get more advanced, and improved upon with time, especially when the prequal was on the previous consoles launch

plus i was one of the few people who actually compared the PS2\'s launch to the entire DC lineup

It\'s unfair to say oh xbox has nothing I want a launch.. when you went out and bought a ps2 that had a horrible list of launch games. Just admit you MARK OUT for a ps2 at launch and it was a big mistake and you just don\'t want to take the chance on xbox even though some of the software looks amazing.  You jut don\'twant to mark out like that again. I can\'t blame you but don\'t say the games don\'t look impressive because they do. PG,FEVER,HALO,NEW LEGENDS, DOA3, MUNCH, MOH, AMPED are all  impressive looking titles.

uhh...none of the games you listed interest me in the least    except MoH, and there is a MoH coming out on PS2  beautiful

as far as im concerned the list of XBox launch games is even in quality (nmote: i havent played them so i cant judge properly) to what i saw on PS2...except, i would PROBABLY prefer to play TTT ovef DoA3, we\'ll see if Amped has an arcade sort of experience, like SSX did, if not, then ill prefer SSX, and TimeSplitters had all the FPS action i needed...though i\'d say it was more rushed than Halo.  But saying i marked out for the PS2 is pretty stupid man    and your making **** up about me (assuming you were referring mainly to me) when you dont even know me

well out of the launch games, halo was going to be good, till online died away. i dont like munch, amped looks nothing better than cool boarders, and ssx, although i love snowboarding, the game (except that photoshop screen) is ok, the only game i look forward to actually playing. fever looks exactly like madden2001 (judging by screens)  and doa3 looks good, but i dont like the fighter genre very much, i will try it out though,










and man, i am mad. the red x has taken me as well....(see pic...)