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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2001, 08:32:08 AM »
Because a nice man named god one day go a great idea..
- Hey lets make a human..

Thats why ;)
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2001, 01:19:00 PM »
so god is a man huh - well thats not what the movie dogma said

they said jesus was black and god was a chick - uh huh so which way is it

so many religions - too  much to disbelieve
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2001, 03:22:33 PM »
I think all living things have souls. But that\'s my opinion. :)
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2001, 04:38:09 PM »
I learned in CCD a few years back that animals don\'t have souls. Does that mean we don\'t have souls? We are animals. Animals don\'t have souls they say. Then we have no souls. My personal belief is that God gives all animals souls and we all can meet up with our animal friends. That is my personal belief.
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2001, 05:13:37 PM »
Doggs don\'t have souls. Dogg are not important. They are only here to be mans servants. There is no such thing as doggy heaven. They are that nothing but a lowley creature.
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2001, 05:13:39 PM »
I believe all life is a form of energy. When we or our Dog dies that enrgy moves on which feeds the theory of re-incarnation

this energy is what we perceive as a SOul or what religion labels it


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If you remember I lost my Dog a few months ago, and I still miss her. So I know where your coming form, and I\'m sorry to hear that. My dog would be at the door when I got home every single night.

I got a new puppy and he\'s great he has his own cool personality and we are fast becoming Pals



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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2001, 05:16:26 PM »
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I believe all life is a form of energy. When we or our Dog dies that enrgy moves on which feeds the theory of re-incarnation

this energy is what we perceive as a SOul or what religion labels it


Kirath

If you remember I lost my Dog a few months ago, and I still miss her. So I know where your coming form, and I\'m sorry to hear that. My dog would be at the door when I got home every single night.

I got a new puppy and he\'s great he has his own cool personality and we are fast becoming Pals


Why would a dog need a soul? He cannot be saved or born again. God did not die to save a dog. So he has no reason to have a soul. He won\'t be in heaven. He won\'t rain with god. He nothing but mans servant and that is all. Animals are here to serve humans and that is all. They should not have rights. I am against animal rights. When you give a animal rights your putting him on the sam pedalstole as a human when he is nothing but an animal.
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2001, 06:17:45 PM »
Yes.  Dogs have souls.  They will be in heaven just like they are on earth.  This is said in the Bible (I think, I\'m looking for where it\'s located right now).  I am not sure if our dogs will be in heaven (i.e. I don\'t know if dogs will be resurrected), but there will be dogs in heaven.

I think the real question is, will animals be in all three kingdoms (Celestial, Terestrial, Telestial), or will they only be in the Celestial kingdom?  (Altered, I\'m looking in your direction.  Do you know the answer to this?)
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2001, 06:47:49 PM »
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Why would a dog need a soul? He cannot be saved or born again. God did not die to save a dog. So he has no reason to have a soul. He won\'t be in heaven. He won\'t rain with god. He nothing but mans servant and that is all. Animals are here to serve humans and that is all. They should not have rights. I am against animal rights. When you give a animal rights your putting him on the sam pedalstole as a human when he is nothing but an animal.




There\'s no such thing as God, and Animals are not here to serve anyone. They are just lower on the food chain

Dogs are just animals that are Domesticated so they are capable of sharing our homes and being our friends.


and I never said Dogs or Humans have a Soul. There\'s an energy that is being misinterpreted by those who actually think there is a God as a Soul



and to be honest my Dog is in higher regard to me then 99.9% of all Humans.

and besodes that Disney already said all good dogs goto Heave  :P



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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2001, 07:51:24 PM »
Yuck QuDDus, I\'m sorry to say but your opinion disgusts me. We\'re just animals like any other creature on this earth. Dogs and other animals aren\'t here to serve us. We just thought we could own it all and take control of nature. The human race is nothing to be proud of IMO.
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2001, 12:36:42 AM »
It\'s simple.. if it\'s alive it has a soul.   I beleave this reason because we\'re all different.. Our souls is what makes us whom we are.

They say people are BORN evil or good.. That\'s why people you think that are normal. Can be the most evil pricks you\'ve ever seen.

But hey, who knows.
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2001, 01:26:29 AM »
Nobody knows, Soulgrind, we can only suspect - believe - think. And that is what scares me about death. Everyone faces it - actually, someone IS facing it right now somewhere around earth - nobody can avoid it, and it is something that you will only find out when you meet it.

I believe Dogs have souls - as they have feelings. They think, therefore they are. call me simple and stupid, but I can\'t think we are here just to reproduce.

I\'m not sure whether I believe in one God, or heaven and hell - it just isn\'t that black and white, if anything exists. But I believe there is another form of life beyond death. Perhaps we will be reborn - who knows? - but I just can\'t think we are nothing in nothingness forever.

Kirath, I have experienced the same. Our lovely dog, a chihuahua, died about year and a half ago, and as I have already passed the sorrow, I still think about him many times - and miss him too sometimes. And I WANT to believe that I will meet him again - whether I will, I don\'t know.
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2001, 04:16:08 AM »
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and to be honest my Dog is in higher regard to me then 99.9% of all Humans.


Well said, I was actually thinking the same thing.  And I agree with you on the energy as well.  Thats what I truely beleive.  I said soul because its much easier for most people to understand.  People don\'t put energy and soul together that well.  But I beleive we are all made up of energy postive or negative.  The more positive energy your made of when you die the much happier your gonna be..  Hence all the religous talks of morality, and being good to each other!
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2001, 12:28:24 PM »
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Yuck QuDDus, I\'m sorry to say but your opinion disgusts me. We\'re just animals like any other creature on this earth. Dogs and other animals aren\'t here to serve us. We just thought we could own it all and take control of nature. The human race is nothing to be proud of IMO.


First of all I am no animal. I am a human being I was created in the likeness of god. Dogs and all these creatures where put here bye god to do nothing but serve us. They are not important. They don\'t need rites. They don\'t need saving. They are only here to benift humans and if they can\'t do that then they are not needed.

aND ddarly that is very sad you feel there is no god, but you believe dogs have souls. How Ironic. It is a shame that  you would value some worthless filthy creature over a human beings life. That is sad and if I where I would have kept my mouth shut on that one. No animal should ever be valued over a human beings life.

Just because it is alive does not mean it has a soul. Man was given a soul bye god so that we could ran with him forever because god loves us. There is no reason for god to give a soul to a dogg or anyother creature because they are not called bye him or chosen bye him. They are just sent to serve us.
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2001, 01:02:53 PM »
man im sorry but i just totally disagree with EVERYTHING you said.

pretty selfish way ti live dont you think, everything here is made just for us? must make things real easy for you.



heres my thing, if there IS  a god. what makes you think that our minds can even comprehend what this "god" is?

he might love dogs for all you know, maybe he created dogs first and then made us to serve dogs and everything got screwy through the years?

oh right.... i forgot about the bible
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ps. maybe its a SHE! and SHE loves dogs!
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