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« on: November 28, 2001, 09:44:07 AM »
In reference to the piracy thread recently closed. None of you DL mp3\'z? All of you pay for every single piece of sw? I burned close to 300 ps1 games..mainly to have as backups..some I burned to share with friends. I honestly don\'t see the big deal.
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2001, 09:51:00 AM »
The thing is, we can\'t be sure who\'s reading the boards. This is a pretty big site and if some important guy reads this board and see\'s how we are talking about best ways to pirate a game....than well, this site get\'s closed.

I for one am not afraid to admit that I pirate games, music and software (allthough only for personal use...honestly).

But as I said, we can\'t risk it.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2001, 09:58:50 AM »
No-One....that makes more sense, thanx for taking the time to explain it to me instead of me just seeing threads on it closed time and time again.

Also, wouldnt disclaimers protect the boards from that type of thing? Or more specifically the 1st amendment(i think its the 1st)

All other boards I frequent dont have those worries which is why I asked.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2001, 10:20:00 AM »
The problem is, (speaking from a web admin sense) if you have someone speaking of piracy or copy right infringement type stuff you want that no where near a serivce you are running.

Just allowing a link or someone talk about it opens you up to so much harrasment.

There are places to talk about it and places to get it, just not here.

The 1st admendment applies to the US dood, this server is not in the US...

Don\'t forget, there a lot of people on there outside of the US, and unfortuneatly the US constitution does not apply.

I can see a disclamer, but thats the admins choice.  With so many corporations causing trouble, the admins don\'t need that headache for supplying us with such a great service.
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2001, 10:30:39 AM »
There are many places to talk about it and if the mods don\'t want to deal with it then that is their choice.  

I think some of the stuff they close is a bit ridiculous, but again, that is their decision.  We just need to only talk about flowers and rate my poo.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2001, 10:31:06 AM »
cool kirath....thanx for not being an ass about it!!! I also wasnt aware where the server was located.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2001, 10:39:45 AM »
Yeah where ever Halmstad is...  Thats where the forums are located, PSX2Central.com is located somwhere else..

Gotta love the free world..  Well almost free

Here is the data as to where exactly the server is

This is also comming from the Boston Area...  This route has a lot of hops, no wonder it is slow sometimes, Damn europeans can\'t route internet traffic if it hit them square in the face..  :laughing:  j/k of course

traceroute 194.47.16.181
traceroute to 194.47.16.181 (194.47.16.181), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  146.115.9.2 (146.115.9.2)  1.030 ms  1.051 ms  1.232 ms
 2  fe1-0-0.core1.mbo.ma.rcn.net (146.115.13.7)  0.957 ms  0.588 ms  0.567 ms
 3  pos0-1.core2.sbo.ma.rcn.net (207.172.19.227)  1.572 ms  1.776 ms  1.608 ms
 4  POS3-1.hsipaccess1.Boston1.Level3.net (64.156.16.5)  2.542 ms  2.177 ms  2.102 ms
 5  lo0.mp1.Boston1.Level3.net (209.247.11.251)  5.510 ms  3.601 ms  2.992 ms
 6  so-3-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.42)  11.508 ms  8.347 ms  7.287 ms
 7  so-2-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.128.154)  72.752 ms  73.916 ms  74.111 ms
 8  gigabitethernet6-1.core2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.131.116)  73.059 ms  72.731 ms  73.043 ms
 9  pos2-0.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net (212.113.0.117)  73.427 ms  74.108 ms  73.312 ms
10  r13-Gi4-0.Ldn-KQ4.UK.KPNQwest.net (195.66.224.54)  83.586 ms  83.684 ms  83.444 ms
11  r4-Gi1-0-0.200.ldn-KQ4.uk.kpnqwest.net (134.222.109.242)  83.599 ms  83.925 ms  83.619 ms
12  r1-Se0-2-0.0.Ldn-KQ1.UK.KPNQwest.net (134.222.231.13)  84.066 ms  84.187 ms  83.922 ms
13  r1-Se0-3-0.0.bxl-KQ1.BE.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.174)  85.360 ms  85.376 ms  85.326 ms
14  r1-Se0-2-0.0.ledn-KQ1.NL.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.9)  85.767 ms  85.149 ms  85.731 ms
15  r1-Se0-1-0.0.hmbg-KQ1.DE.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.18)  96.098 ms  95.677 ms  95.793 ms
16  r2-Se1-1-0-0.Sthm-KQ1.SE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.230.150)  115.233 ms  115.463 ms  116.172 ms
17  r4-Se7-0-0-0.Sthm-KQ1.SE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.119.246)  116.107 ms  115.534 ms  115.670 ms
18  s-gw.nordu.net (134.222.119.241)  116.352 ms  115.256 ms  115.604 ms
19  STK-BB-2-POS5-0.sunet.se (193.10.252.182)  115.865 ms  118.108 ms  116.097 ms
20  STK-BB-1-POS0-0.sunet.se (130.242.200.45)  122.542 ms  122.991 ms  122.696 ms
21  MLM-BB-2-POS4-0.sunet.se (130.242.204.244)  130.427 ms  130.654 ms  130.455 ms
22  MLM-BB-1-POS0-0.sunet.se (130.242.200.81)  131.370 ms  130.540 ms  130.714 ms
23  halmstad-2-POS4-0-0.sunet.se (130.242.210.27)  132.619 ms  132.397 ms  132.267 ms
24  * * *
25  L32-310.gsten.hh.se (194.47.16.181)  134.273 ms  142.131 ms  134.718 m
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2001, 01:25:53 PM »
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traceroute 194.47.16.181
traceroute to 194.47.16.181 (194.47.16.181), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  146.115.9.2 (146.115.9.2)  1.030 ms  1.051 ms  1.232 ms
 2  fe1-0-0.core1.mbo.ma.rcn.net (146.115.13.7)  0.957 ms  0.588 ms  0.567 ms
 3  pos0-1.core2.sbo.ma.rcn.net (207.172.19.227)  1.572 ms  1.776 ms  1.608 ms
 4  POS3-1.hsipaccess1.Boston1.Level3.net (64.156.16.5)  2.542 ms  2.177 ms  2.102 ms
 5  lo0.mp1.Boston1.Level3.net (209.247.11.251)  5.510 ms  3.601 ms  2.992 ms
 6  so-3-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.42)  11.508 ms  8.347 ms  7.287 ms
 7  so-2-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.128.154)  72.752 ms  73.916 ms  74.111 ms
 8  gigabitethernet6-1.core2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.131.116)  73.059 ms  72.731 ms  73.043 ms
 9  pos2-0.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net (212.113.0.117)  73.427 ms  74.108 ms  73.312 ms
10  r13-Gi4-0.Ldn-KQ4.UK.KPNQwest.net (195.66.224.54)  83.586 ms  83.684 ms  83.444 ms
11  r4-Gi1-0-0.200.ldn-KQ4.uk.kpnqwest.net (134.222.109.242)  83.599 ms  83.925 ms  83.619 ms
12  r1-Se0-2-0.0.Ldn-KQ1.UK.KPNQwest.net (134.222.231.13)  84.066 ms  84.187 ms  83.922 ms
13  r1-Se0-3-0.0.bxl-KQ1.BE.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.174)  85.360 ms  85.376 ms  85.326 ms
14  r1-Se0-2-0.0.ledn-KQ1.NL.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.9)  85.767 ms  85.149 ms  85.731 ms
15  r1-Se0-1-0.0.hmbg-KQ1.DE.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.18)  96.098 ms  95.677 ms  95.793 ms
16  r2-Se1-1-0-0.Sthm-KQ1.SE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.230.150)  115.233 ms  115.463 ms  116.172 ms
17  r4-Se7-0-0-0.Sthm-KQ1.SE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.119.246)  116.107 ms  115.534 ms  115.670 ms
18  s-gw.nordu.net (134.222.119.241)  116.352 ms  115.256 ms  115.604 ms
19  STK-BB-2-POS5-0.sunet.se (193.10.252.182)  115.865 ms  118.108 ms  116.097 ms
20  STK-BB-1-POS0-0.sunet.se (130.242.200.45)  122.542 ms  122.991 ms  122.696 ms
21  MLM-BB-2-POS4-0.sunet.se (130.242.204.244)  130.427 ms  130.654 ms  130.455 ms
22  MLM-BB-1-POS0-0.sunet.se (130.242.200.81)  131.370 ms  130.540 ms  130.714 ms
23  halmstad-2-POS4-0-0.sunet.se (130.242.210.27)  132.619 ms  132.397 ms  132.267 ms
24  * * *
25  L32-310.gsten.hh.se (194.47.16.181)  134.273 ms  142.131 ms  134.718 m


what the f*ck is that?
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2001, 01:35:57 PM »
Posting a disclaimer on your website will not prevent you from being sued by Sony or any other big corporation.  If Bjorn was sued, and he didn\'t have the money to defend himself in court, then his only choice would be to capitulate to Sony\'s demands.  (which may include shutting down the site.)  Just the threat of a lawsuit is now all the deterrence needed in today\'s Internet.

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2001, 01:53:47 PM »
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Also, wouldnt disclaimers protect the boards from that type of thing? Or more specifically the 1st amendment(i think its the 1st)


Ok, in that case, then go to an airport, board a plane with a briefcase and proclaim that you have a bomb in your briefcase.  Watch what happens.

The 1st amendment is fine and all, but there are limits to everything.  This site, or this forum in particular as proclaimed by our communist leader, is not a democracy and what the administrators say, goes.  I know a lot of people on here pirate mp3\'s, games, movies, whatever, but no one here openly discusses it and asks of ways to find it easier and faster.  It\'s just common sense.  Nothing more.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2001, 01:54:28 PM »
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hell no, I hate that haxor stuff...its almost as bad As TaLkInG LiKe DiS y0..NaH wHa I MeAn MaH NiZzL3?
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2001, 02:27:03 PM »
Is that why mod was blocked?:confused:
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2001, 02:43:16 PM »
LUKE Thats the road map that the little bits of data that go from my computer and goto these forums..

ITs called a traceroute.  And does what it says Traces the Route that the data has to take to reach a certain place..

Dood I have power at my finger tips.  Thats only a trace, I can get more info for ya if you want..  But I don\'t want to do anything at work that will get me in trouble..

Like I could get you Bjorn telephone number, address, all kinds of things..

Quite simple really..  But we will leave it at that...  Educate yourself, KNOWLEDGE is power
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2001, 05:21:27 PM »
1st amendment?  freedom of speech

this is a private forum, you have NO freedom of speech

people advocate piracy, they get banned

simple enough, no?
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2001, 05:48:25 PM »
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1st amendment?  freedom of speech

this is a private forum, you have NO freedom of speech

people advocate piracy, they get banned

simple enough, no?


go re-read what I wrote..I didn\'t say the ppl posting had freedom of speech in a private forum, I meant it more as the content on these boards in general. as in said company vs. ps2central, not a admin/mod vs. a poster.
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