Nintendo news.......(bad news)

[Bobs_Hardware]

Watchdog...im not angry at all dude...if it comes across that way, then i apologize, im being very mellow    i like to swear and inult sometimes just for kicks

ok, you name me one platformer since Mario64 that has innovated??  there are none

and to say J&D has not innovated is pretty stupid in itself... the realization of the entire world adds SO much to the platformers gameplay, which puts it SOOO far ahead of oither games, yoiu dont just warp to one gate do your missions and come back, you can be doing as many missions as you want at once and the game is much less tedious than the standard Mario games

have you played it? (seriously)

plus its way of story telling is fantastic, the animations are so superb, sure this isnt innovative for the gameplay, but it literally does have better animations than top of the line CD movies/cartoons, and it is extremely innovative by way of story telling

by pinacle i meant you will not play a better Platformer than J&D...and i speak the truth...

Yeah I played it over Christmas.  It is still a platformer without new gameplay elements.  I was impressed by the things you mentioned (and the graphics!), but it was the same old tricks.

No, I can\'t name a better platformer (Rayman was good though, just as I\'d say for it\'s time), but any Mario game is better and they were all first.  I\'m sure Mario Sunshine (hate that title) will be better, because it\'ll look at platformers differently and give gamers something new.

J&D hasn\'t been a big hit--despite aggressive advertising--because people see it and think it\'s a clone--and that isn\'t far from the truth.

People are losing interest in platformers because it is becoming a stale genre.  You don\'t need a mascot anymore to sell a console.  J&D for the PSX at launch would have blown everyone away.  It would have been a groundbreaking title, it would have changed everything.  Now, it\'s just another title to add to the pile of "me too" games.  It is certainly at the top of the pile, but that\'s it.

To be the best you have to beat the best, and by copying and taking no risks at all, you\'ll never do that.

[Bobs_Hardware]

agreed

but my point still stands

LOL Bob, and what was that again?

[Bobs_Hardware]

by pinacle i meant you will not play a better Platformer than J&D...and i speak the truth...

I would say Mario. heh

But my whole point is that J&D will cease to be anything the next time someone decides to copy every good idea Mario et. al. ever had.

I think Munch, while probably not as full out fun as J&D, gets points for originality and humor.  While still firmly planted in Mario\'s fundamentals, it deviates far more and takes chances, some fail, but some come off great.  It\'s a refreshing change.  

All things considered J&D is a better game, but Munch is a daring effort and should get just as much praise for trying to take the genre away from the model.  

I consider Munch a greater achievement, but an inferior game.  The designers of Munch had vision, the designers of J&D had Platformers for Dummies.  That\'s really my only major complaint about the game.

Originally posted by Watchdog

I\'m sorry, but you can not say J&D and Mario in the same sentence.

Liar .......

you just said it .

Nintendo needs to pump out more games. I don\'t know what to say about nintendo. I find it interesting that more and more of the kids you would think that fall in the age category of nintendo gamecube owners because nintendo did announce they where going after the lesser of age group. But it\'s interestiiing to see the kid\'s they consider there market buying xbox\'s and ps2\'s.

My little cousin just bought an xbox and he is 9 and he got halo. But the entire 911 and the economy  was already in a recession so that could be hurting nintendo as well. I expect things to pick up for them as they get better games on shelves.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by Watchdog
I would say Mario. heh

But my whole point is that J&D will cease to be anything the next time someone decides to copy every good idea Mario et. al. ever had.

I think Munch, while probably not as full out fun as J&D, gets points for originality and humor.  While still firmly planted in Mario\'s fundamentals, it deviates far more and takes chances, some fail, but some come off great.  It\'s a refreshing change.  

All things considered J&D is a better game, but Munch is a daring effort and should get just as much praise for trying to take the genre away from the model.  

I consider Munch a greater achievement, but an inferior game.  The designers of Munch had vision, the designers of J&D had Platformers for Dummies.  That\'s really my only major complaint about the game.

my point still stands, and im not going to argue the same thing over and over.. you obviously understand what i mean, and i understand what you mean, we are just arguing different points...so shaddap

yeah, but only if you do.

[Bobs_Hardware]

OMG ur so gay STFU n00b!!!1

thats it...we kept this forum alive the last few days with the only good discussion...who votes me, ginko and watchdog (ok forget watchdog) become moderators of this section??

ill send you all porn if you vote for us... (thats how Bill Clinton won)

Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
OMG ur so gay STFU n00b!!!1

thats it...we kept this forum alive the last few days with the only good discussion...who votes me, ginko and watchdog (ok forget watchdog) become moderators of this section??

ill send you all porn if you vote for us... (thats how Bill Clinton won)

I vote for Bob!!  Okay, where\'s my porn?!  

That would be bad ass, us three moderators.  Although I fear we would be the only one\'s posting...notice how no one else really steps in on any of our debates:( save for a few...Quddus, Blade

Watchdog would make a great mod...

But I think he ruined his chances when called mm a troll...

Bob would make a great mod :fro:

Heh, I doubt anyone would make me a mod--I have very little patience for trolls and mindless system bashing.  And you know what they say: absolute power corrupts.  :vader:

Besides the existing mods do a great job around here, and what they don\'t take care off the strong community here does--most of the riff-raff don\'t last long.

And I don\'t really consider mm a troll, his behaviour was trollish for about a week or so, but I still think most of it was just him having a little fun at our expense.