Nintendo news.......(bad news)

http://www.msnbc.com/news/697375.asp



When it comes to Electronics Boutique, GameCube is lagging in third."

"Last year, Capcom announced that Mikami’s popular Resident Evil games would only be released for GameCube. That announcement was made a few days before GameCube’s disappointing Japanese launch last September. As an artist, Mikami may like the way his games look on GameCube, but executives at Capcom watch the bottom line. “If Nintendo cannot get its numbers up, particularly in Japan, we may need to reconsider keeping Resident Evil exclusive to GameCube,” ,” Gardner recently admitted in a recent interview with MSNBC.com."

"If you look at GameCube right now, it’s doing okay, but nothing like I might have hoped… and any problems GameCube has had in Japan have been without the challenge of Xbox entering the marketplace"

"The only one who is trailing in mindshare is Nintendo"

"Nintendo is re-thinking the cel-shaded version of The Legend of Zelda that was unveiled last August at its Spaceworld trade show"

" I cannot share the specific number publicly, but the amount of awareness that we have for Xbox is significantly higher than it is for GameCube. "


Hmmmmm........RE may be appears somewhere else afterall. But i thought capcom was in a contract with nintendo but i could be wrong.

I really do hope they trash that cel shaded crap they call Zelda...Zelda on N64 sold millions of copies, why mess with a winning formula?

Nintendo will grab more market share...Miyamoto even stated that the big games are set to come out Fall 2002 and that will be their time to shine...I know I\'ll be picking one up when Metroid is out...

so GC owners have to wait 8 months to play zelda or mario?

so lame, no wonder thier in 3rd place

It makes me wonder what Nintendo\'s been doing...all their big titles in late 2002, perfect dark perhaps pushed back to 2004?? That is lame...

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by Ginko
I really do hope they trash that cel shaded crap they call Zelda...Zelda on N64 sold millions of copies, why mess with a winning formula?

nintendo have shown time and time again that they dont like to stick to the same ol\' winning formula, they like to innovate and experiemtn and mix it up, particularly Miyamoto...
something like this is evident with the fact that Rare gave away the Bond license because they didnt want to be contricted to the movie...
but i expect that they didnt think the backlash would be so bad, hence, they are re-thinking their strategy

Originally posted by Ginko
Nintendo will grab more market share...Miyamoto even stated that the big games are set to come out Fall 2002 and that will be their time to shine...I know I\'ll be picking one up when Metroid is out...

no...nintendo need a stellar name franchise to be released NOW waiting 8 months as mm stated is pathetic and they have no chance of getting a decent market share unless they do some killer marketing and start pumping our third party titles...because their first party and second party isnt doing jack **** right now..

nintendo have shown time and time again that they dont like to stick to the same ol\' winning formula, they like to innovate and experiemtn and mix it up, particularly Miyamoto...
something like this is evident with the fact that Rare gave away the Bond license because they didnt want to be contricted to the movie...
but i expect that they didnt think the backlash would be so bad, hence, they are re-thinking their strategy

Then why does Mario Sunshine(cringe) look like Mario 64 on steroids?

Star Fox Adventures and Eternal Darkness are supposedly coming out in March...these will probably be their next big thing...

Nintendo hasn\'t had much 3rd party support since the Snes days...

yeah, cause they raped the 3rd party developers on thier proprietary medium royalties.  same with Gamecube.  why do you think they use the 8cm disks?  so the developers have to buy them from nintendo.  

:rolleyes:

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by Ginko
Then why does Mario Sunshine(cringe) look like Mario 64 on steroids?

because currently no one has any good ideas as to the direction that the platform genre can go in, Mario and Jak & Daxter (i dont care what anyone says) are the pinnacle and peak of the genre, and unless it is radically redesigned Mario isnt going no where

i\'d still like to see him go back into 2D, 3D is teh sukk!!!11!!!1!!

Originally posted by Ginko
Star Fox Adventures and Eternal Darkness are supposedly coming out in March...these will probably be their next big thing...

they are not in the same vain as Zelda and Perfect Dark

Ps2 has MGS2 and Final Fantasy, the two stellar system seller series for all gamers, and they have helped the PS2 sell BIG TIME...thats what GC needs...

Originally posted by Ginko
Nintendo hasn\'t had much 3rd party support since the Snes days...

of course...and look where its gotten them...thats why they need to get their in house developement teams cranking or they will have to hit the road (jack (they wont be coming back no more no more no more no more))

they are not in the same vain as Zelda and Perfect Dark

Ps2 has MGS2 and Final Fantasy, the two stellar system seller series for all gamers, and they have helped the PS2 sell BIG TIME...thats what GC needs...

and approximately how long was it after PS2\'s launch was it these "stellar" titles came out?  

because currently no one has any good ideas as to the direction that the platform genre can go in, Mario and Jak & Daxter (i dont care what anyone says) are the pinnacle and peak of the genre, and unless it is radically redesigned Mario isnt going no where

i\'d still like to see him go back into 2D, 3D is teh sukk!!!11!!!1!!

I think Zelda is right up their in the adventure category...it was a proven formula for success (speaking in terms of game sales).  I could have maybe seen a side quest or something like that going cel shaded, but not GC\'s killer app...

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by Ginko
and approximately how long was it after PS2\'s launch was it these "stellar" titles came out?
 

difference is...PS2 didnt need them then, GC does..

The point is that Nintendo happens to do well without the 3rd party support.  Their inhouse developement is pure gold (depends on who you speak too) and their games are usually must haves...

Like I said, give it time...:cool:

[Bobs_Hardware]

there was a point?  

yah, they do reasonably well on pretty much in-house alone...reasonably

but they are not, and will not do well unless..  ^^^see points above

their in-house is not doing enough currently to compete against too powerhouse machines such as XBox and PS2...and at the moment, its looking disastrous for them especially with their most stellar titles so far away..and still a severe lack of third party support <<<--- t\'was my point  

Read the actual article. A lot of it was left out in the topic post. It says something about how, luckily for Capcom, GC sales are picking up in Japan.

But you also must see that they are not aiming for the same demographic as MS or Sony.  Nintendo doesn\'t have any "competition."  It almost seems as they are on their own platueu of sorts...I think people will see the games once they start coming out and start sending some love Nintendo\'s way;)

Originally posted by GameGamer
Read the actual article. A lot of it was left out in the topic post. It says something about how, luckily for Capcom, GC sales are picking up in Japan.

I still think it\'s trash that the RE series is GC only...Knowing Capcom, it won\'t hold for long anyway...