PSX2 Central...

[Bobs_Hardware]

pstwo...what was the point of all that???  you have yet again come into a thread and posted nothing but useless ****....AAA Graphics?  c\'mon man, a little brain power...

Those halo and doa3 screens dont look that great even though i would have to say that doa3 looks good in reality. But when did that make it an AAA title??? And as much as ppl bash the ps2 launch i have to say that i had a blast playing some of those games. I have a dc and the graphics on ps2 were fine to me. TTT was fixed for the american release, timesplitters was a riot, Fantvision looked kool and i enjoyed it. The beautiful scenery with some oddly addictive gameplay, especially in 2pl mode. I luved rr5. I like racing games and i like rr so.. Whats really weird is that i even enjoyed Orphen. lol. W/e all im saying is that ppl just love to find the bad in things, i just say shut up and play. One mans trash can be another mans treasure. I think xbox is ok but i really think, even with ps2\'s competittion that it still has so many promises and i luv it to death. Its funny how topics like this bring out the true colors in people.

Well since xbox has launched how many AAA games have been released for PS2? 1, MGS2 (one could argue GTA3, but I really think this is a horrible game, anyway...).  I think Halo is the better game from a replayability standpoint, but that doesn\'t matter.

You people have such high standards for AAA games, that there really can only be 2 or 3 a year.  That\'s fine, and I agree, but saying that doesn\'t invalidate every other xbox game that has been released.  There have been some very fine games released, that while may not be AAA, are very strong and fun.

How many AAA titles have been released for GC?  None if the criteria is system sellers.

How many are coming up for PS2 or xbox this year?

I\'m just asking for perspective.

yes, but halo has zero replayibility

beat it on legendary and there\'s no reason to play it again

multiplayer?  no thx, keep yer 15 FPS, i dont wanna go blind

plus, id rather use my PC for multiplayer shooters

Originally posted by mm

multiplayer?  no thx, keep yer 15 FPS, i dont wanna go blind

plus, id rather use my PC for multiplayer shooters

Heheh.. 15fps..  

I don’t know what qualifies a game as "AAA".. But I do know what good games are.. (GTA3, MGS2, ICO, Jak and Daxter (some hate it.. I love it), DMC ect)

Now.. Back to 10fps MoH:AA

Originally posted by mm
yes, but halo has zero replayibility

beat it on legendary and there\'s no reason to play it again

multiplayer?  no thx, keep yer 15 FPS, i dont wanna go blind

plus, id rather use my PC for multiplayer shooters

I\'d rather you stay out of all xbox talks, all you do is spew your opinion of Halo, which is quite funny, theres rarely ever slow down and the 4 player matches are great, much better than Bond or PD.  And when comparing it to PC shooters, thats not fair, were talking about consoles here, so Halo is a great console FPS

Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Personally I still consider DOA2:Hardcore the best fighting game ever made and maybe DOA3 would top that if I had a chance to play it more.  But I digress...

Anyway HALO is fun as hell.  ESPECIALLY co-op.  I\'m beating the game on Heroic and after this I\'ll go for Legendary.  mm, you may not play it all the time but I make up for you.

And Wednesday it\'s WWF  RAW

Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
pstwo...what was the point of all that???  you have yet again come into a thread and posted nothing but useless ****....AAA Graphics?  c\'mon man, a little brain power...

Bob, I\'m just trying to say that AAA games have IMO,  3 Keys to make a game become a AAA title.  

I think it\'s

1) Replay value
2) Visual
3) Gameplay

Don\'t tell me that Visual is not importaint because you show me a game that is a AAA title that looks bad and became a AAA title.  

So Visual as you can see the Xbox screens I posted was the best looking Xbox games that are here now.  


 AAA VISUALS I ment when I posted the Xbox screens shots.  But I know some of those screen it not a real AAA title.

Ironfist,  you do make good points but they have nothing to do with the arguement.  The debate was about graphics, not gameplay...

Point is that PS2 had it\'s share of problems and let downs only to be reconciled later with quality games that really start to push the system...same will happen with Xbox.  You\'re trying to read way too much into it...this is a rather lighthearted and shallow debate...

Could developers already be reaching the Xbox\'s pinnacle? Hmmm... It really woudn\'t be that surprising given the Xbox\'s well known architecture/familiar graphics libraries.

Or could it be wishful thinking on your part for some strange reason??  Do you seriously believe the Xbox is at it\'s peak or even close too?  

Sony was trying something new. That\'s their excuse. Without companies taking risks, this industry will not grow. I don\'t know if Sony\'s risk will turn out to be worth while or not, but at least they are playing around with new ideas.

What\'s your point?  The debate was comparing the launches of the systems as to the graphic quality of the launch games and soon after...

Correction: GT3 and FFX came before DMC

In what country? ?  devil may cry came out in March or April of 2001...right?  Then Gran Turismo and FFX came out that summer in Japan?  Either way this is pointless, the debate was about launch games and as to whether the Xbox\'s stacked up...

GO GAMECUBEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by pstwo



Bob, I\'m just trying to say that AAA games have IMO,  3 Keys to make a game become a AAA title.  

I think it\'s

1) Replay value
2) Visual
3) Gameplay

Don\'t tell me that Visual is not importaint because you show me a game that is a AAA title that looks bad and became a AAA title.  

So Visual as you can see the Xbox screens I posted was the best looking Xbox games that are here now.  


 AAA VISUALS I ment when I posted the Xbox screens shots.  But I know some of those screen it not a real AAA title.

visuals are not important to make a AAA game, it just so happens (by coincidence perhaps??) that the very best games are made by the most talented developers, hence why they have bettter graphics..

and your post was COMPLETELY irrelivent to the post, even your post then made very little sense..

gah!  you frustrate me!

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i also agree the term AAA is used entirely too much...as far as im concernened now, AAA games should really be considered the very best...

for me, these games include Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Zelda and the likes...the very biggest and best games..

halo is a great game, i would never say it wasnt

but you CANNOT say there isnt any slowdown

it runs at 30 FPS tops, and ive seen it slow down to a frickin crawl in two player when we throw multiple grenades

no excuse for a powerhouse console

if i cant blame micro$oft, then i blame bungie

Wow, I just read what NPYYZ wrote (thanks Ryu!).  Wow.. we really pissed the chode smoker off didn\'t we? Guess having your ignorance pointed out to you over and over again instead of learning from your mistakes will do that to a person.

Why are all the fun Trolls mentally unstable? He sounds like he\'s about to climb a belltower with a sniper rifle and start picking us off. The thing I don\'t understand is.. why is he so upset? If it was nothing, he\'d just brush it off and post rational, humorous, or maybe even a fact filled flame for once... but no.. he makes a big deal out of it. Truth must really hurts huh NYPPZ.

Originally posted by SonyFan
Wow, I just read what NPYYZ wrote (thanks Ryu!).  Wow.. we really pissed the chode smoker off didn\'t we? Guess having your ignorance pointed out to you over and over again instead of learning from your mistakes will do that to a person.

Why are all the fun Trolls mentally unstable? He sounds like he\'s about to climb a belltower with a sniper rifle and start picking us off. The thing I don\'t understand is.. why is he so upset? If it was nothing, he\'d just brush it off and post rational, humorous, or maybe even a fact filled flame for once... but no.. he makes a big deal out of it. Truth must really hurts huh NYPPZ.

It took you that long to read my post?  If you think for a minute that I take this board seriously you are mistaken. I come here to piss you people off and to get a laugh, which is exactly what I get. My life doesn\'t revolve around what people on a message board think. I don\'t know you people, and I could give a ratfs ass what you think. Some of you people just don\'t get it. ( however there are a few that do) This is nothing but a  joke to me.  Think about it for a minute, now really try to read this part and understand it. I have been bashing the PS2 and telling all of you how the XBOX is sooooo much better. (it is and you all know it) I do have a PS2, I spent the money on it, and I like it. It just amuses me to see how you get your panties in a wad when someone talks up another system. Yes ,I find it humorous. At the moment I am using my Dreamcast more then my PS2. Does that get you all excited too????? Are you going to tell me how the PS2 is selling better then the Drearamcast, and how the PS2 has way more games available for it.  Thatfs all you got over the XBOX,  more games, and as I said, that will change.

And a question for Sonyfan, Do you Swallow????

Hey Bobs-Hardware , your posts are so absolutely moronic they don\'t even deserve a response.

QUOTE:
 "NPYYZ, please, type up a nice and concise article as to why you think XBox will be the number one console, i guarantee you I along with many others will absolutely destroy what you have to say..."   END QUOTE.

You f***ing idiot. I don\'t think the XBOX will be the number one console, I know it will.  How will you destroy me?  With your opinion? Time will tell.  I seem to remember many people telling me I didn\'t know what I was talking about when I said the Patroits would win the superbowl, but they did. I even posted it elsewhere on this board, so go find that post and change it so you can say I was wrong.

I\'m sure that this post will be changed by board moderators because they can\'t take the truth. How do you poeple survive in the real world?

lol, you think yer doing something original?  you think yer the 1st troll thats been thru here?  yer a child [suffering from console envy] with too much time to spend on mom\'s AOL account, nothing more

you think yer actually better than anyone?  look at every post in this worthless thread  and see that EVERY single person is mocking you.  even the fellow newbs got on the ship and made you look stupid.  not to mention you have a troll alert picture under yer name. you even make the fellow xbox zealots look bad, with yer undocumented [facts].  you "know" the xbox will win the "console war"?  well good for you.  we honestly dont care about yer "opinion" and will continue to mock and defactualize you.

you think we get offended when you say the xbox is the best console?  :rolleyes:   what do you think this is, ign.com forums?

at any rate, yer the loser for coming back and checking on this thread.  OBVIOUSLY, it meant alot for you to do so

so keep laughing kid, the jokes on you

Time will tell

same thing as "wait till E3, huh?"  :rolleyes: