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« on: February 26, 2002, 12:54:08 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2002, 01:14:30 AM »
Really nice...all this nice graphics come out so easy on the XBox,after only 3 months from launch...I want details about controls and game play...





How games will look like in the next 2,3 years ?

Look at the progress PS2 did from the beginning...

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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2002, 04:33:52 AM »
BizioEE,
I take it you limit it yourself to ps2 games released 3 months after launch :laughing:

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And why does the car say Playstation on it?
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2002, 04:39:25 AM »
why is BizioEE starting a debate for no reason??

on a side note:  hmm.. game looks nice, very purty

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Edit:
And why does the car say Playstation on it?


would sponser the car.. part of the agreement to license the cars would be that tha sponsers are promoted as well  :)
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2002, 04:53:25 AM »
no actually, the game is being released on the ps2 also
who knows if those are xbox or PS2 screens
or maybe even renders
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2002, 10:02:36 AM »
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
why is BizioEE starting a debate for no reason??


Bobs,I know...you\'re always one of the first to understand a little sarcasm...

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BizioEE,
I take it you limit it yourself to ps2 games released 3 months after launch


I was just praising PS2 for the progress it did from the beginning to current racing games...and I was excited because the beginning of the X is better than the "current of PS2"...only this...

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no actually, the game is being released on the ps2 also
who knows if those are xbox or PS2 screens
or maybe even renders




I don\'t think it\'s a render...it\'s a XBox pic !

You poor Chrono fanboy
« Last Edit: February 26, 2002, 10:21:11 AM by BizioEE »
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2002, 11:08:46 AM »
tsk tsk..

Square made that game from incomplete development libraries. Completely new hardware takes time to learn BizioEE. Xbox is made like a PC, developers should be able to get alot out of it from the beginning.

Here are the PS2 games that are out now/coming out soon.



Click here for my own GT3 pics. (cant post them cuz GeoCities sucks!)

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Technology is the name of the game here, and Kenwright is more than confident about facing up to some considerable rally competition towards the end of this year. "It was a bit like a shakedown for the 2002 version," he said. "We know what worked and we know what didn\'t. Instead of sitting on one game for three or four years and getting it right, we\'ve had the luxury of learning from things that could be improved upon and making them a magnitude better. The overall technology, the rendering, the way it all looks and feels is going to be fairly revolutionary... It\'s up there with only a couple of games in the world that are really pushing the envelope on number of polygons per second on PlayStation 2. We\'re probably going to be drawing more polygons than an Xbox game can do."


Now when the new tools are out (PA2, VC ect) I think they can squeeze out alot more power in alot shorter time :)

Oh and dont forget MS likes to use Photoshop with their games. (Render a image at 1900x1200 and then downsize it to 640x480 and you get a picture perfect look..)

And BizioEE (or should I call you IceCrEaTuRe?), dont pretend you know anything about PS2.

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Superdud,I have not enough knowledge about PS2 architecture to reply him...who here has enough knowledge?
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2002, 12:25:43 PM »
I don\'t place much importance on screens of unreleased games for xbox, PS2, or NGC. It\'s just too hard to judge how they\'ll end up looking in motion on what ever TV you wind up playing it. The finished game can easily end up looking either much worse or better than screens.

Forecasting what the future holds using one console launch vs another is purely specious reasoning.  On the surface a comparison may seem to hold up, dig a bit further and it will fall apart straight away. Believe what you want, just don\'t bet the farm on the outcome ;)

I\'ve heard a professional developer, who knows very well xbox is more powerful, point out xbox launch titles should clearly be considered second generation and the only PS2 title to date that even begins to take advantage of the architecture is Jak & Daxter.
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2002, 12:59:08 PM »
is it still coming out for xbox just been over at codemasters website and everything to do with toca race driver has been removed

and the only games on the xbox release list are

colin mcrae 3
mike tyson boxing
prisioner of war
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2002, 01:08:23 PM »
Hi fastson,you\'re right,I\'m IceCrEaTuRe,and I was pretty sure someone whould have understood:) ...

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Xbox is made like a PC, developers should be able to get alot out of it from the beginning.


XBox is more friendly for developers,but it has a lot of untapped power too...I\'m doing some research...

It\'s quoted from a guy...

""Finally, the UMA has some awesome potential, especially as developers learn to share the space immediately to turn computation to graphic displays and other wonderful effects. Since it is a unified memory, it means that memory being used to hold video information can instantly be rerouted to another system for post processing or saving, etc. As developers learn to use the benefits of the UMA, you will see even niftier stuff appear only on the XBox."" (I\'ll wait and see,obviously)

...and I\'m still waiting some answers from Entroper and Gking(some of the coolest and unbiased member I\'ve ever known...and they know a lot!)


The Pics you showed me are nice...but not great...textures are low res...though I should see it in motion before judging...

Thanks for the GT3 pics...really nice...I just played GT3 an hour after lunch...
« Last Edit: February 26, 2002, 01:21:20 PM by BizioEE »
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2002, 01:19:54 PM »
>"I don\'t think it\'s a render...it\'s a XBox pic !

You poor Chrono fanboy"

BizioEE,
What evidence do you have to support your claim?
One of the screenshots clearly says playstation on the car, thats a hell of alot more evidence then you have included in your argument.
So, are you going to answer my question? Why does it say Playstation on the car? Btw, do you like to pick and choose what things you debate on? Even though you very well started the debate..

Funny thing is, i\'ve yet to call you a fanboy, yet you say it to me every chance you get.. even though the questions I raised were not fanboy questions.. I think your insecure about your console..
Explain to me how I was a fanboy in this topic, beacuse you seem to think everything is a fanboy.


>"Oh and dont forget MS likes to use Photoshop with their games. (Render a image at 1900x1200 and then downsize it to 640x480 and you get a picture perfect look..) "

Lol, so true fastson, so true :p
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2002, 01:33:37 PM »
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Explain to me how I was a fanboy in this topic, beacuse you seem to think everything is a fanboy.


You\'re a fanboy because you act like a fanboy...and everyone knows that...and you even won the award "fanboy of the week" ;)

*I think your insecure about your console*

I\'ve still to get the XBox...I\'ve DC,PS2,etc...not a XBox...
...I\'m simply disgusted from the fanboysm of these forums...months and months ago these forums were a lot better,with more unbiased members...but now...err...they\'re boring...and now...the console debate...is turning in a XBoxBashingforums and mindlessPS2fanboys...and it\'s the reason why it\'s "dying"...
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2002, 01:46:58 PM »
>"*I think your insecure about your console*"

Really?
what should I be insecure about?
i\'m not the one liking the console that failed to sell half of its initall shipment in japan which was half of a normal shipment in japan in the first place..

If the xbox fails in japan, say goodbye to lots of japaneese software, its as simple as that.


BTW, you ever going to answer the question..
:laughing: you just keep ignoring it..

I love selective reading :hat:
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2002, 02:01:11 PM »
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XBox is more friendly for developers,but it has a lot of untapped power too...I\'m doing some research...


It is because its based on a old well known architecture.
PS2 is NEW (well almost) and still pretty unknown.
The more you work with it, the better you get, its how it works!


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...and I\'m still waiting some answers from Entroper and Gking(some of the coolest and unbiased member I\'ve ever known...and they know a lot!


PS2 still (beleive it or not) has more potential to be unlocked.
Developers get better each generation. (MGS2 was technically a 1st generation game, not bad Konami.)

GkinG did not seem so "unbiased" at arstechnica :)
And someone coming from TeamXbox cant be unbiased.. :)
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2002, 02:15:06 PM »
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*I think your insecure about your console*


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