Dunno, but with the new PS2\'s there pretty much fine, When people moan about disk read errors mainly I would blame it on them, if you took care of your PS2 and disks it wouldn\'t **** up, my disks dont have a spek of dust on any of them and my console is spotless, strange how mine works. Oh and im not having a go at you and I know there are problems with earlier PS2\'s its just I hate people that moan when there disks are scratched and dusty and they obviously dont care about the games, I got a mate like that , he is NOT allowed to put his games in my machine.