Originally posted by mm
again, i used the wrong decimal point
lets recap
lets say xbox has hit 10% of PS2 sales, thats 3.5 million
20% of those that get online is 700,000
20% of those that actually have broadband is 140,000
how low of a % of the owners are willing to do the little things to comprimise?
Ok, now it makes sense. But still, how do you know that it\'s 20%? Some have said (in another forum) that it may be closer to 50% since most Xbox buyers are hardcore gamers with BB. All in all, we don\'t know, so this is pretty hard to argue. All I can say is that playing on the Xbox will be better.
extra long cable?
so the PC loses its connection to feed the xbox?
You can always plug it back in you know.:rolleyes:
yer full of moot points
HD\'s on consoles werent thought of back when PS2 launched
two controller ports keeps cost down
a small minority of consoles get more than two players at a time
here\'s a hint, yer wasting yer breath
in the immortal words,
"toot on" [/B]
Yeah, as if DVD playing ability and a digital out port are more useful.:rolleyes:
Originally posted by seven
I think you guys have wandered a bit off topic and missed out on the important thing:
While Xbox may come with more for its price (HD + Ethernetcard), it is loosing out on a lot of users simply due to its broadband only. Debate what you want - that is a serious drawback for the average Xbox buyer outthere that would love to use it but can\'t.
Secondly, the Xbox Live. Thanks to this brilliant idea (and the marketing gimmick of "having the best in mind for the consumer"), they are getting a lot of companies having second thoughts about making online games for their system. EA and Activision might be the only ones at the time, but I\'m sure lot more will follow if Microsoft doesn\'t ease up and do something about it. Missing out on those potential online games is a big minus. While Microsoft will be trying to get those online games on their own server, we on PS2 will be playing heaps of online games thanks to the support by developers. Yeah, the add-on is necessary, but Japan is already proving that it can be succesfull if the price is right. With a $80 dollar price here in the states for the HD (which is 5 times the size of Xbox\'s HD), I\'m sure it will find enough buyers to ensure good support.
And nonamer, even if mm\'s numbers are a bit off target, the princible is still the same: their will be more users online on PS2 than on Xbox, because it\'s not BB-only and more support by developers as it seems. Also bigger userbase on the PS2. You don\'t really have to do the math - it should be quite clear like this already.
The Xbox argument is this: It is traditionally believed that Addons = dead. Since ever Xbox has an BB connection and for PS2 and GC you need to buy a network adaptor, the percent of Xboxes that will be online (even assuming that only 20% have BB) will be greater than that of PS2 or GC. Also, a closed network, although it will scare off the big developers, will bring the small developers, because they can\'t afford a massive cluster of servers of their own, which should allow for more and better games.
Look at the PC online gaming market. It\'s tiny, unreliable depending on whose service you\'re using, cheating is often rampant, and there\'s no small and innovating guys because they can\'t afford it. The PS2 online plan will basically create the same thing. The Xbox argument is that if you want the same thing as the "PC online experience" on the PS2, DO SO ON THE PC. But with the Xbox, you have a close, fast, relatively cheatingless, and reliable online service that will be much better.
There is actually a reason to get this service over the PC. It all rolls down to one thing: better service. Look at the big picture. There is almost no chance that PS2 plan could actually work over the long-haul if the PC online industry is any indication. But with the Xbox,
there is actually a chance. So what if BB isn\'t popular now. It will be and even in its current shape it\'s still pretty potent. Naysayers who say that it has no chance, I say to you that its chances are better than you think.
