MS plans to stay but what would happen to Xbox

Well in case you have been in the cave for the last decade, you should know MS has been in court forever.  However I think it\'s getting obvious that they are paying off the courts when a judgement gets passed for them to break up and then a couple years later the courts just "oh dont worry about it, you dont have to break up".

And come on ppl, there is really just windows out there.  Yes you have Linux, OS2Warp and Unix but those are more specialized, although much much better.  The whole windows template is outdated and it sux.  One of my friends thinks that they dont even test it at Microsoft and just throw it out into the public.

MS hardware good??? WTF u talking about?  I mean the only reason I would agree is cause a Microsoft mouse would work best with a Microsoft Operating System and all due to software concerns.  But from what I have seen with Xbox, it is a joke.

Now PS2 is no prize either when it comes to hardware reliability but it is way better what the super duper hyped up Xbox was doing.  I really do not care to start comparing and spreading stories, but for all its talk about being the best console, this thing has performed horribly.

All Xbox has is graphics and I definitely agree it wins in that category.  However graphics is all hype and a minor issue to real gamers.  Ppl that buy games for graphics fall out of it fast because it is all about gameplay.

Well it is staying for a while and MS just wants to get more market share with their CrapBox.  They are gonna force it to stay on the market and basically do what Ford did with automobiles.  In case you dont know, Ford cars are cheap crap.  The amount of liability lawsuits they have had is just ridiculous.

You\'d be stupid to argue that MS has a better server client.

Of course I was talking about the consumer level product.

But, again, I have to believe you knew that and were just being mm.

you cant call the M$ desktop OS "the best" of anything

they strongarmed the entire market and hash out mediocre OS\'s ever other year

Windows XP shipped with over 60,000 KNOWN vulnerabilities and bugs

i use it cause im forced to, no other reason
im run linux but not enough games are released on that platform, *yet*

No other OS has to do everything that Windows does and until one does we can\'t make a comparison.  Also if linux was in the hands of everybody, joe hacker would find a million vulnerabilities with that OS.  Anything is crack/hackable.  That means nohting.

You find a vulnerability in Linux and it will be fixed in one week.  You find a vulnerablility in WIndows it might never be fixed.  The difference is M$ controls Windows while no one company controls Open Source Software.

The reason most people don\'t run Linux on their desktop is b/c of their unwillingness to learn.  That and they\'ve already got too much invested in the vfat filesystem format and MS Office.

/me don\'t care windows gets the job done:p

Originally posted by QuDDus
/me don\'t care windows gets the job done:p

This guy/girl/tran  is really one dumb and closeminded person.  And this is just from reading several of your posts.

Hey does anyone else notice that like every other website has a "Win a Free Xbox" banner?  I never seen a PS2 one and only a few GC ones.

Look for those failing to understand.  Since Windows does hold a monopoly on the OS, browser and even certain applications, they are not moved to innovate, make good products or provide any type of customer service.  In fact, MS has no direct customer service, only third party service from some horrible establishments.  If competition thrived and hopefully Linux will start breaking, then we might see what MS is really made of.  From what I see with Xbox, MS has no real business skills, just money to burn.  And still they are failing miserably.

liteitup, call one more person outside of thier name and you wont be posting here anymore

not try not to be so hostile

[Bobs_Hardware]

youve already banned him once.. why not again?

I think it\'s simple. MS\'s competitors are envious and can not compete in the open market. So what do they do, they go to the government and cry foul.

You should be more frightened that the government is willing to crumble under the pressure and stick their nose where it does not belong.

If someone can make a new OS that can compete, it will sell.

If MS was so powerful, then the XBox would be outselling the PS2 now.


Ace

Ace, yer missing the point

anytime a company attempts to develop an OS, m$ cries copyright infringment.

ask larry ellison about that

m$\'s competitors envious?
more like pissed off, cause m$ has stolen all thier ideas and lied to the public for over 20 years about it


i dont think you know m$\'s history too well, i do

micro$oft = evil empire

Your right, I do not study the history of MS. I do know that it\'s a very common thing that when someone can\'t win they whine.

Believe me I don\'t think Bill Gates is an angel but I don\'t expect him to be. The business world is cut throat and it shouldn\'t be any other way.

You run a business to win.

micro$oft = evil empire

I just don\'t buy that. I think it\'s popular to hate MS amoung certain circles.

Ace

Ace, how can any company really compete with Microsoft in the OS business? I believe that Linux or any Unix counterpart is better in many aspects, yet the normal consumer won\'t pay much attention to it out of several reasons:

• underwhelming software support
• buy a PC - you get Windows
• compatibility?

Lets be honest - most people live in a Windows/Microsoft based world and don\'t even know of Linux (well maybe heard of it, but probably never saw it to really take notice of it). Call it good business or whatever you want, but there is no way one company can come out and make a new OS that will change everything.

As for software, read up on some Internet Explorer vs Netscape history. One prime example to what Microsoft is capable of when whipping off their competition.

Ace, how can any company really compete with Microsoft in the OS business? I believe that Linux or any Unix counterpart is better in many aspects, yet the normal consumer won\'t pay much attention to it out of several reasons:

That\'s my point. Consumers buy what they want to buy. The best man, (product) might not always win. I felt that way with Beta vs VHS. It looks like we want to stop a business from getting to big or from dominating a particular area. That scares me. Should we put a limit on market share so the little guy can have a chance?

No one is forced to own a PC. No one is forced to buy an MS product.  I believe in the open market, and when the dust settles the consumer is the one that makes the choice.


Ace

Originally posted by mm
did you ever wonder why Ie became so popular?

hmmm, i wonder

:rolleyes:

IE became popular because Netscape turned into a piece of trash.