Whew, that was a close one.

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Originally posted by Clowd
The chances of that happening are 1% in the next 100 years.  Also, take my word for it, dont listen to statistics scientists put out.

You do realize that 1% of 100 years would mean that a whole year there is 100% chance of the asteroid hitting us.

Hmmm..  That kind of sucks..


I was wondering why this thread blew up so fast.  Damn creationist people.  Bunch of losers.

OMG Clowd yuo r SO rite!1111111



o·pin·ion   Pronunciation Key  (-pnyn)
n.
A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: “The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion” (Elizabeth Drew).
A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.
The prevailing view: public opinion.
Law. A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.


fact   Pronunciation Key  (fkt)
n.
Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.
A real occurrence; an event: had to prove the facts of the case.
Something believed to be true or real: a document laced with mistaken facts.
A thing that has been done, especially a crime: an accessory before the fact.
Law. The aspect of a case at law comprising events determined by evidence: The jury made a finding of fact.


mo·ron   Pronunciation Key  (môrn, mr-)
n.
A stupid person; a dolt.
Psychology. A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

I\'ll argue with you more in a bit, but you went and proved nothing there.  We told you to prove creationism, and all you did was cite some biblical garbage and little else.  Do you actually have a brain in there, or are you just typing out of your ass?

Why dont they evolve today?

Some use the example of the white moth evolving to black color to match a black tree. This is not true. What you are witnessing is variety, humans come in all shapes and sizes and colors

We are evolving to this day.  It just takes millions of years for evolution to take place.

Tell me, how was a man who lived 5000 years (Moses) ago able to record how the earth was created from when light came upon the earth, to which animals appeared, etc?

Simple, it\'s made up

Lets look at the universe. Even though there are billions of stars, they arent just scattered everywhere, they are in groups, like grapes

The atom, its structure is similiar to the solar system, in how the planets revolve around a central point, did this evolve exactly like how the solar system does it? No

First of all, they aren\'t exactly the same.  In an atom, the electrons travel in a wave like nature.  Planets don\'t.  Electrons can move further out and then fall back to their original state easily.  Planets can\'t.  Solar systems are based on gravity, while atoms are based on differing charges.  They are actually very different.

The giraffe. Its long neck requires its heart to pump blood extra hard to get the head. But what happens when the giraffe bends over to drink? The blood would come rushing to its brain and kill it because of the extra force. NO this doesnt happen because the giraffe has a special mechanism in its heart that no other animal has that stops fast blood flow from killing it when it bends over. Oh i guess the girrafes saw that too many were dying from drinking so they decided to evolve this away

Maybe there were giraffes that happened to develope with this feature, and ones that didn\'t.  The ones that didn\'t died out.  Had none developed with such an ability, the entire species may have died out.  Perhaps that happened with millions of similar species before the giraffe.

Ape man, absolutly NO evidence to support this pure THEORY, its just pure imagination

There is no evidence for creationism either.  Based on what we know about science and early humans though, this is the most logical conclusion.  We are talking about a long long time ago here.  Of course it is hard to find proof, if there is even any out there to find.

And again, it is absurd to think the human body evolved from a fish (you evolutionist should know that is where they think caveman came from

And it\'s not absurd to think some higher being created us from sand or whatever?  Come on.

Its also been proven that cells can come from ONLY OTHER LIVING CELLS HOW SOME RNA AND PROTEIN GOT TOGETHER AND WENT KABOOM AND MADE A CELL I DONT KNOW, THATS EVOLUTION FOR YA

I doubt it has been definitely proven.  To prove that something can\'t happen is nearly impossible.  You have to do trials on every possible exception, and they could never do such a thing.

While man said earth rested on a turtled, the bible said earth hands upon NOTHING, no columbus needed

I\'m not religious, so I won\'t accept the Bible as proof.  Get me something that didn\'t come out of a work of fiction.

Ok, then your theory is that we\'re directly created by GOD, or whatever you wanna call it.

You think that animals don\'t evolve, humans don\'t evolve, atoms are mini-solar-systems... you go and read and agree with an irreal-imaginary-fantastic-religious book. That\'s the way yeahh!

Now, after read your post, I think that you\'ve some minor mental problems. A person can\'t agree with BIBLE!

Incredible.... I thought that persons like you died in Middle-Ages.

Originally posted by shockwaves
I\'ll argue with you more in a bit, but you went and proved nothing there.  We told you to prove creationism, and all you did was cite some biblical garbage and little else.  Do you actually have a brain in there, or are you just typing out of your ass?

I have lost my patience with you.  I proved nothing?  ARE YOU BRAIN DEAD?  DO YOU HAVE EYES?

you friggin BLIND

Just wait until i pull out the main course

Originally posted by Clowd


I have lost my patience with you.  I proved nothing?  ARE YOU BRAIN DEAD?  DO YOU HAVE EYES?

you friggin BLIND

Just wait until i pull out the main course

You never proved creationism existed, and that\'s what you were asked to do.  What evidence did you provide?  I\'m busy working on my full reply to your ignorant jibberish btw.

Originally posted by Samwise
OMG Clowd yuo r SO rite!1111111



o·pin·ion   Pronunciation Key  (-pnyn)
n.
A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: “The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion” (Elizabeth Drew).
A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.
The prevailing view: public opinion.
Law. A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.


fact   Pronunciation Key  (fkt)
n.
Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.
A real occurrence; an event: had to prove the facts of the case.
Something believed to be true or real: a document laced with mistaken facts.
A thing that has been done, especially a crime: an accessory before the fact.
Law. The aspect of a case at law comprising events determined by evidence: The jury made a finding of fact.


mo·ron   Pronunciation Key  (môrn, mr-)
n.
A stupid person; a dolt.
Psychology. A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

SAMWISE you messed up, seriously.  read the post again with out that blind fold.

you say i have no proof yet you evolutionists dont even agree with each other, in fact you dont have a clue what to believe

Alright, alright. I think I can settle this with a quote from our good friend Eminem, edited to fit the description. By the way, I feel like being an immature prick at this point towards Clowd.

(Clowd) is a dirty **** licking ****** who wants to get laid by that crack additt Kim Mathers. - Eminem (Edited to fit the description)

This is what Clowd gets for me being tired...So basically, uhm, go evolution.

By the way, Shockwaves isn\'t blind. You must be even more ignorant than I gave you credit for for sayin\' something as idiotic as that.

Alright, I\'m done. See Yuz.

Originally posted by Clowd
you say i have no proof yet you evolutionists dont even agree with each other, in fact you dont have a clue what to believe

No, because:

1. Evolution is a theory
2. Creation by God is a theory
3. I can\'t prove either
4. YOU can\'t prove either
5. So it boils down to OPINION, which differs because of:

A. The people you hang around
B. What your parents tought you as a child
C. The culture you\'re from
D. A million other things

So in conclusion: You didn\'t prove a damn thing, and neither can I. It\'s moot point, so whether you believe in one thing or another it\'s your own business. However, there might be some logical reasons as to why one chooses one belief over another.

Nice job "proving" creation Clow. :rolleyes:

Clowd: Sometimes when everyone is against you, you should learn to take a hint.

Originally posted by Clowd
The Genesis account says it all.

God created men in his image.

:eek: :jaw:

What did he use?  Materials from the earth.

Why do you think this? Because a few men wrote it down?
I can write "Humans are cows", does that make it true?

Tell me, do you actually think the human eye evolved to what it is today?

Sure, why not? Its taken 2million+ years.

Tell me, if animals and humans evolved limbs,  why havent any incomplete skeletons been found?

I think they have found a fish with limbs actually.

Why dont they evolve today?

We do, but it takes time.. It does not happen over night.. Only very, very small changes..

Tell me, how was a man who lived 5000 years (Moses) ago able to record how the earth was created from when light came upon the earth, to which animals appeared, etc?

He made it up and guessed?
Im sure you know about greek history, they found out quite a few things.

Lets look at the universe.  Even though there are billions of stars, they arent just scattered everywhere, they are in groups, like grapes

Its called gravity!

The giraffe.  Its long neck requires its heart to pump blood extra hard to get the head.  But what happens when the giraffe bends over to drink?  The blood would come rushing to its brain and kill it because of the extra force.  NO this doesnt happen because the giraffe has a special mechanism in its heart that no other animal has that stops fast blood flow from killing it when it bends over.  Oh i guess the girrafes saw that too many were dying from drinking so they decided to evolve this away

LOL.. THINGS like this dont happen over night.. It takes millions of years..
Maybe as the giraffes neck started to grow the heart evolved with it?

Let me prove evolution by proving that Creation couldn\'t be possible.

According to the Bible Adam & Eve were the two first people on Earth - all mankind was made from those two... see a problem here yet, Clowd? Those two people would have to deliver DNA to 6 billion people (of all races, builds and traits, etc.). That would give some severly imbred, handicapped and mutated children. How would you explain that?

If you need more proof about that, you should look into Nueva Germania, a German settlement in Paraguay (or you could just take a look at Missisippi ).

Have you got any sect problem Clowd? We can help you...

Originally posted by Clowd

Ill get into the left hand right hand thing a little, to put it simply if there were 10000 pills on the table with 5000 white and 5000 red, what are the odds of getting only 30 red everytime?  

well the answer to this would be
[(5000C30)*(5000C0)]/(10000C5000) (statistically offcourse).

but anyways, Clowd give it a rest, the only thing you have done in this thread is make yourself look like an a$$.

Originally posted by shockwaves

Simple, it\'s made up

First of all, they aren\'t exactly the same. In an atom, the electrons travel in a wave like nature. Planets don\'t. Electrons can move further out and then fall back to their original state easily. Planets can\'t. Solar systems are based on gravity, while atoms are based on differing charges. They are actually very different.

Maybe there were giraffes that happened to develope with this feature, and ones that didn\'t. The ones that didn\'t died out. Had none developed with such an ability, the entire species may have died out. Perhaps that happened with millions of similar species before the giraffe.

get a education

moses wrote all the steps of the creation of earth, and scientists agree with it.  HOW THE #$^#$^ IS THAT MADE up?  YOUR SICK

They still rotate around the central station, look at a drawing of a atom and a drawing of the solar system they look identical,  that hog wash you posted is usless ink

and on the giraffe, what caused them to "evolve" that feature?  how did they evolve it?  God made them that way and its that simple. Why cant you agree with that?

by the adan i didnt say atoms are mini solar systems i said they resemble a solar system which equals God created both

and rol jamas why are you so angry?  your theory getting proved wrong?

and adan again, people like me died in the middle ages?  no most of us died in the 20th century when the world started getting worst faster then ever, and people like you were born

shockwaves i never proved evolution existed?  look,  how do you prove evolution?  by facts and evidence.  Do you need to see an angel before you can believe?  it seems like that.  i proved creationism by stating facts and evidence

you cant state facts and evidence because you have none, thats right, (watches as faces turn red) you have nothing but THEORIES