Final Fantasy X...Spoilers Ahead!

[Bobs_Hardware]

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He wasnt dead.  Im pretty sure they tell you, otherwise its implied.

I thought he went purely by accident.  Sin sucked him in after Sin appeared for the first time (im pretty sure) while he was out at sea.  And he obviously didnt WANT to be there, so its not like he had any say in it.

with any luck, these questions will be answered the sidestories.. at least they better be!

Well, it\'s good to know I\'m not alone on this.  

Jecht was sucked into the real world by Sin (the previous sin ten years ago).  He was just a product of the Fayth dreaming him up. Being sucked out by Sin allowed him to exist in the real world.

Why would Sin pick somebody from a dream world?

Tidus never existed neither did his father.

Wouldn\'t they have had to in order for a fayth to be dreaming about them?

[Bobs_Hardware]

Dammit Ginko its not that confusing you are asking questions that are pointless!!  ..*gets whip..... uhh.. for unrelated matters*..

Being a dream, if he once did exist im sure they would have told us that.  Telling a story in a videogame is a lot different to telling a story in a movie/book etc.  You have to let the gamer assume facts.  If they dont tell you he existed, then he didnt  (unless in the spin-offs they do.) But so far there is nothing to suggest that he did.  But there are many subtle suggestions that he is made up by the Fayth.

And its not really dreaming.  More just using their imagination.  In the real world (earth?) Humans cant dream about anything that they havent seen (or perhaps imagined - through description).  But you can imagine anything you want (and believe me.. i do! ).  But they invented all these people and then let these people do what they want.  Perhaps when the dreaming started 1000 years ago (im assuming) their dreams were based on people that existed.  But because they let those people do what they want rather than control it, those people produced their own people.. and eventually Tidus.

Golly gee I\'m typing a LOT of bull****  I dont even know if that makes sense! (and it probably doesnt)

Youve gone in deeper than you are supposed to Ginko.. only God may help you now.

Why would Sin pick somebody from a dream world?

God bless Square for making the spin-offs.  Although they probably still wont explain this.  My guess would be that the Fayth wanted Jecht to go to the real world, in hope that HE would end their suffering.  But when he didnt, they had to go with Tidus.  

At the start of the game Auron appears to be summoning or helping Sin, something like this might have happened with Jecht, but it was never shown.  Youre just supposed to assume dammit!

Hey Ginks.. are you gonna buy the spinoffs?

And its not really dreaming. More just using their imagination. In the real world (earth?) Humans cant dream about anything that they havent seen (or perhaps imagined - through description). But you can imagine anything you want (and believe me.. i do! ). But they invented all these people and then let these people do what they want. Perhaps when the dreaming started 1000 years ago (im assuming) their dreams were based on people that existed. But because they let those people do what they want rather than control it, those people produced their own people.. and eventually Tidus.

I actually thought about this, but since I\'m not sure...I question it.

Youve gone in deeper than you are supposed to Ginko.. only God may help you now.

It\'s the games\' fault, I\'ve never had this much trouble grasping an RPG\'s story.

God bless Square for making the spin-offs. Although they probably still wont explain this. My guess would be that the Fayth wanted Jecht to go to the real world, in hope that HE would end their suffering. But when he didnt, they had to go with Tidus.

I thought of this too, but since I\'m not sure...I want to KNOW!!!  It would be cool if they made prequels and sequels to this game.  It\'s got so many possibilities.  

At the start of the game Auron appears to be summoning or helping Sin, something like this might have happened with Jecht, but it was never shown. Youre just supposed to assume dammit!

And what does assume mean boys and girls?  It makes an ass out of u and me.

Hey Ginks.. are you gonna buy the spinoffs?

The game has grown on me quite a bit...I\'ve been through it it 1.5 times:p  While I won\'t finish it again, I do appreciate it more and have a huge interest in the story.  

I will buy the spin-offs, I just hope they answer a few questions.

ask if you brought the hand-cuffs too!

But is Jecht isnt real........that means all of Zanarkand, Auron and all of Spira isnt real because all the people in those places knew him.


  I am now at an all time high in being confused.

Originally posted by cloud345
But is Jecht isnt real........that means all of Zanarkand, Auron and all of Spira isnt real because all the people in those places knew him.

Not if Jecht was dragged into the real world to later meet Auron.

There are so much easier explanations that what we are talking about.


  Did you ever think that Auron died but the fayths dreamt him to guide Tidus to Spira and destroy his father (sin/yevon) and after Tidus killed Sin the fayths allowed him to travel back in time to Zanarkand? That wquld be alot easier to understand.

Tidus is a summon.  In the ending when Yuna was whistling she was trying to summon him.  The extra disc in FFX Japanese version has Kimhari finding Tidus in a summon ball.

Originally posted by cloud345
There are so much easier explanations that what we are talking about.


  Did you ever think that Auron died but the fayths dreamt him to guide Tidus to Spira and destroy his father (sin/yevon) and after Tidus killed Sin the fayths allowed him to travel back in time to Zanarkand? That wquld be alot easier to understand.

Auron did die, at the hand of Yunalesca when he fought beside Braska and Jecht.  Remember Jecht asked Auron to watch after Tidus, so that\'s what kept him around.  

And I thought Jecht, as Sin, allowed Auron to go into the dream world to get Tidus...Remember when they are being sucked up off the bridge and Auron asks something like "Are you sure?" directed at Sin?

Originally posted by Clowd
Tidus is a summon.  In the ending when Yuna was whistling she was trying to summon him.  The extra disc in FFX Japanese version has Kimhari finding Tidus in a summon ball.

That would go along nicely with Tom G\'s

"Each original member of Zanarkand became a fayth, and got stuck on that wall or something. The fayth that is dreaming Tidus is undoubtedly that kid in the hooded outfit ("Don\'t cry. You\'re gonna cry."-Remember?). Even more intresting is the fact that that particular fayth is also Bahamut. "

You guys are thinking to much. Why did Tidus and Jecht have to be products of the fayths? Why cant they just be normal people?  Bahumat\'s fayth and tidus as a little kid looked nothng alike. Why couldnt it be thats Tidus was real and so was Jecht throughout the whole entire game.Auron died but Sin (Jecht) let him travel back in time to look over Tidus and  than let Jecht decide whether Tidus should travel to Spira to destroy him. You guys are making it a lot more complex than it really is.

Originally posted by cloud345
You guys are thinking to much. Why did Tidus and Jecht have to be products of the fayths?

If they weren\'t then that would contradict the ending...at least with Tidus it would.  He knew he was going to disappear after the fayth woke up...and he did.

Why cant they just be normal people?  

He came from Zanarkand, which is a dream of the fayth since it was destroyed 1000 years ago in present Spira.

Bahumat\'s fayth and tidus as a little kid looked nothng alike. Why couldnt it be thats Tidus was real and so was Jecht throughout the whole entire game.

Because they are NOT normal people. They are dreams.

The fayth that guided tidus and the fayth that is Bahamut are one and the same. But is Tidus a summon or a fayth? Clowd seems to support that answer. I\'m thinking it could be true. Remember what the fayth says to him. "You and your father are more than just dreams now." MORE questions! :eek:

Auron died but Sin (Jecht) let him travel back in time to look over Tidus and than let Jecht decide whether Tidus should travel to Spira to destroy him.

There was no time travel involved. Zanarkand (Tidus\' world) exists as Spira\'s did, but its not in the past. Its just an alternate dream world.

You guys are making it a lot more complex than it really is.

Intresting comment considering you don\'t seem to understand whats going on.

I\'m thinking it could be true. Remember what the fayth says to him. "You and your father are more than just dreams now." MORE questions!

jaw hits the floor

I remember that!!  And being that Jecht was Braska\'s final Summon would make it seem that Tidus could be something similar now.