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« on: July 04, 2002, 11:02:58 AM »
Okay, I\'ve been over the story again and again trying to put all the pieces together.  Everytime I feel like I understand it, another question comes up.

Tom G and I have been discussing this a little bit and niether one of us can come up with a definitive conclusion.

Here\'s what we got so far:

Me:
I didn\'t fully understand the concept of Tidus being a dream.  I know he is a product of the fayth dreaming and I knew why he disappeared in the end.  But how did he become a dream in the first place?

Tom G replied:
As far as I understand it, Spira and Zanarkand (sp? I know, I know, an expert can\'t spell a FF X term) existed just as it did in Yuna\'s time, up until it was destroyed by Sin. At that point, in order to preserve their perfect society, the fayth began to dream the world Tidus is from. So time sorta stood still in the dream world, and in the real world (Yuna\'s) things went on as was, with the taboo teachings of Yevon taking advantage of everything.
What I don\'t understand is why/how Jecht ended up in the real world. I suppose it was because of fayth. Then he got caught up in the struggles of Spira, and changed into the caring man he was at the end of the game. There wasn\'t any special reason why either Tidus or Jecht were chosen by the fayth.
Or maybe there is. As shown in the Japan only FFX international, Tidus may actually be "alive". Sometime after the events of FFX Kimahri gives Yuna a sphere recorded by Tidus.

Me:I didn\'t save my outgoing PM.
I replied with another question...has Tidus always been a dream?  Was he killed in the attack on Zanarkand 1000 years ago and "preserved" by the fayth up until the point where the game begins?

Tom G replied:
You starting to sound like me after playing Xenogears. Took me 5 trips through the game before I finally understood the story. The other day I was looking at Gamefaqs and noticed that there was still a whole lot I had missed! Oh well, another reason to fire it up for a sixth time.
Each original member of Zanarkand became a fayth, and got stuck on that wall or something. The fayth that is dreaming Tidus is undoubtedly that kid in the hooded outfit ("Don\'t cry. You\'re gonna cry."-Remember?). Even more intresting is the fact that that particular fayth is also Bahamut.
Was that kid actually Tidus? It coulda been. Both young Tidus and the fayth had the same voice actor...hmm, the plot thickens.

more questions...

Anyone have some insight or a different view on FFX\'s story?

I would have put this in Hints, Help, and Cheats or whatever, but this place gets more traffic...and I can prune the thread if so needed:p

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2002, 11:28:01 AM »
Wait so Titus died? And was a thing that the little kid who was Tidus made up? :confused:
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2002, 11:33:05 AM »
Thanks for that input Cloud345. You\'ve really saved the day. :laughing:
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2002, 11:37:24 AM »
Your welcome :)
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2002, 11:46:19 AM »
but he was in the water right at the END (well in the Euopean version anyway)

So were the HADES is he ?

me confused :(
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2002, 11:52:57 AM »
Yeah, more questions. Hopefully those FFX spinoffs won\'t be Japan only...but I\'m betting they are.
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2002, 12:12:48 PM »
at the end of the game were you see Titus ...i just hope that he finds himself near Luca so that he can be with Yuna :crying: :crying:
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2002, 01:46:43 PM »
You know, I was thinking about this somemore. As to how Tidus might be reborn...

Maybe he was a fayth, and then he woke up, which is what we see in the end. Just a thought...
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2002, 02:09:10 PM »
Why dont you just ask square to explain it in an e-mail?
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2002, 02:09:53 PM »
Will they do that?
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2002, 02:30:12 PM »
I dont know but its worth a try.
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2002, 06:57:51 PM »
Great.. you guys are getting way too deep :p

Jecht was sucked into the real world by Sin (the previous sin ten years ago).  Tidus never existed neither did his father.  He was just a product of the Fayth dreaming him up.  Being sucked out by Sin allowed him to exist in the real world.  Kind of like how Auron and others were allowed to exist even tho they were dead.  

At the end of the game he reappears underwater.  Was he in the afterlife?  I doubt it, more likely it will be explained in the spin-offs.  But if he is alive it would be some sort of miracle of the Fayth and the fact that he became so powerful (more powerful than Jecht?)

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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2002, 07:16:38 PM »
You didn\'t tell us anything we didn\'t already know... ;)

The fayth dreaming and being an "unsent" are 2 different things. Unsent are just that- dead who are not sent to the farplane. They have some strong emotional attachment to the living world that kept them from going. For Auron, it was his will to take care of Tidus, like he promised to Jecht.

Seymour is a confusing one. Why exactly did he never leave? Was it because of his mother dying? Or his desire to destroy the world? And here\'s a another question- did your group kill him at the macalania temple, or was he already dead?

Eek! MORE questions! :eek:
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2002, 07:26:43 PM »
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You didn\'t tell us anything we didn\'t already know...


Screw you!.. ;)..

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What I don\'t understand is why/how Jecht ended up in the real world


And i answered it f0cker!  so stfu!  ;)

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And yes i know they are two different things i was just drawing comparison because of the face that in both instances you existed in the real world when you werent supposed to.

And your other questions arent really relevant at all.  Knowing whether Seymore was already dead (he wasnt) is just out of curtiosity? :)  The reason he stayed was his strong desire for the world of spira.. kinda of like the other Maesters.

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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2002, 07:52:25 PM »
How do you know he was already dead? :)

And we know HOW Jecht got to spira, what we wondered was WHY. Just a freak accident?



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And yes i know they are two different things i was just drawing comparison because of the face that in both instances you existed in the real world when you werent supposed to.


Oh. :shy:

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