Ok, Noahs Ark could not exist.

people also lived alot longer back then too

no preservitives or macdonalds to give us heart desease or cancer to kill us off

Originally posted by Bossieman
So it was an illusion when I say on TV that women were screaming, "Its our country, God gave it to us"
I dont think so, what kind of Tv do you have over at the US, only what the people are allowed to see or what?

What the people of a country feel and what the heirarchy of a country feels are rarely(if ever) the same. Do you think people would support a war if the leaders came out and said "They have too much control of [insert resource here]. We must stop them inorder to protect and increase our own wealth"? The answer(in case the scientific method has not answered it yet) is NO. They appeal to the basest form of human nature and tell the people that a) their lives are in danger or b) their religion is in danger. Plain and simple.

The taliban attacked the US. Was it because of Allah? Did Allah say that we were evil? Why didn\'t Allah say we were evil decades ago when we were giving them financial support and weapons in order to attack russia? They are angry over the fact that the US no longer supports them yet supports some of their rivals who are now strategically better suited for US alliances. The fact that they are a religious state does not mean that everything they do has religious conotations.

Originally posted by mm
people also lived alot longer back then too

no preservitives or macdonalds to give us heart desease or cancer to kill us off

I always thought ppl didnt live as long back then due to sickness and disease\'s that couldnt be cured or treated.

were talking pre-roman era here, remember

VERY pre-roman

Right when I saw the title of this thread, I said to myself, "Oh no, not another one."  I know, I\'m 5 pages too late.  But it had to be said.

mjps21983,

Noahs Arc, merely impossible when did the arc happen millions of years ago, we\'ve never indicated that we have found man from millions of years ago, at least common day man!

Don\'t go arguing against a story you know nothing about.  The Bible says that the world is only around 6000 years old, not millions.  The great flood supposedly happened around 3000 BC (just a huge estimation, but it gives you a general idea of when these things supposedly took place.)

luckee,

I always thought ppl didnt live as long back then due to sickness and disease\'s that couldnt be cured or treated.

In the Bible many people lived 500+ years old.  Slowly over time that number decreased.  It wasn\'t really bad until after Christ\'s death and what I believe -- the apostasy of his church (400 AD to just recently), where during this time it got to the point where people normally lived up to around 30ish years old.

Vivi,

If god does exist 75% of this forum is screwed.

Not necessarily.  One can not believe in God and still live righteously.

Isnt part of "acceptance" to heaven also accepting and believing in HIM and HIS word?

Isnt part of "acceptance" to heaven also accepting and believing in HIM and HIS word?

Yes.  I think all Christian religions agree with that.  But one thing most Christian religions don\'t believe in is a chance after this life to accept Jesus Christ.

Hypothetically speaking, if a person lives their whole life serving others, helping others, showing love, support, charity, etc, and avoiding the things that they know are sinful as well as they can, but unfortunately, they never learn about Jesus Christ and his power to redeem our souls, are they damned for eternity?  

I don\'t think so.  I believe that there will be another chance in the next life for those who have lived a righteous life yet haven\'t had a chance to accept Jesus Christ.  So yes, through Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven.  But no, the people who don\'t believe in him now are not necessarily "screwed" as Vivi put it.  Not all of them at least.

But of course, this is just what I believe on the matter based on how my religion has brought me up.  Others will surely have different opinions than I.

*Note* I might not be on these forums for the next week.  I hope this thread isn\'t locked before I get back.  *counts the seconds before Clowd enters this thread*

Originally posted by Bossieman
Exercise/Animal handling. The animals aboard the ark would have been in very poor shape unless they got regular exercise. (Imagine if you had to stay in an area the size of a closet for a year.) How were several thousand diverse kinds of animals exercised regularly?

Manpower for feeding, watering, etc. How did a crew of eight manage a menagerie larger and more diverse than that found in zoos requiring many times that many employees? Woodmorappe claims that eight people could care for 16000 animals, but he makes many unrealistic and invalid assumptions. Here are a few things he didn\'t take into account:

 

Credibility is very low if you dont even know how long the Flood lasted.  No,  it wasnt a year long.

As I said,  there were no where near \'thousands\' of animals on the ark.

[Titan]

Then Clowd, why are there thousands of species of animal on earth (actually in the millions counting insects)? They just didn\'t magically appear. The flood was pretty high.

Originally posted by Titan
Then Clowd, why are there thousands of species of animal on earth (actually in the millions counting insects)? They just didn\'t magically appear. The flood was pretty high.

Just like why there are alot of different races of people even though they all came from just 2

Originally posted by Clowd


Just like why there are alot of different races of people even though they all came from just 2

hahaha, I\'d like to see you prove this.

[Titan]

They didn\'t come from just two. They evolved from common ancestors and due to the fact that they lived in different regions, their bodies needed to make vitamin C. The darker skin people also live closer to the equator and they don\'t get sunburned. Depending on the region they are in is the way they evolved.

Originally posted by Clowd


Just like why there are alot of different races of people even though they all came from just 2

And what would this reason be that answers both of these questions?

[Titan]

What religion are you Clowd?

Originally posted by Bozco


hahaha, I\'d like to see you prove this.

"They didn\'t come from just two. They evolved from common ancestors and due to the fact that they lived in different regions, their bodies needed to make vitamin C. The darker skin people also live closer to the equator and they don\'t get sunburned. Depending on the region they are in is the way they evolved."

- Titan

Prove this