Ok, Noahs Ark could not exist.

Originally posted by Titan
They didn\'t come from just two. They evolved from common ancestors and due to the fact that they lived in different regions, their bodies needed to make vitamin C. The darker skin people also live closer to the equator and they don\'t get sunburned. Depending on the region they are in is the way they evolved.

There is a scientific study going on right now that says all life on earth can be traced back to one woman in eastern africa. I don\'t know the exact statistics;  but they had a show about it on the Discovery channel.

Originally posted by Clowd


"They didn\'t come from just two. They evolved from common ancestors and due to the fact that they lived in different regions, their bodies needed to make vitamin C. The darker skin people also live closer to the equator and they don\'t get sunburned. Depending on the region they are in is the way they evolved."

- Titan

Prove this

I\'m not asking him to back up his statements, don\'t dodge the task. :rolleyes:

Im still waiting to be answered as well.

There were more advanced civlizations from ours long long time and the met destruction 3 times.One was the flood.

In the Bible many people lived 500+ years old. Slowly over time that number decreased. It wasn\'t really bad until after Christ\'s death and what I believe -- the apostasy of his church (400 AD to just recently), where during this time it got to the point where people normally lived up to around 30ish years old.

Those people that lived 500 years are beleived to have existed.They were bigger in size than us(Magnetic feilds the same of a planet bigger than earth\'s can make an animal grew larger in size).These are what people thought to be Gods like the 12 Gods of Olympus.

Its rather simple.

Scientists agree that all life on Earth can come from something like 30 types of birds, 15 types of reptiles, etc.

Noah didnt have a million species of animals on the ark.

So, there it is  

Or we can go the evolutionist route and believe in the odds of 1 : 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
00000000 - Clowd

I think you\'ve gone a bit overboard on the evolution thing. Modern Man -HomoSapien (Including Noah) has only been around for roughly 80,000 years. That\'s not nearly enough time for evolution to create the plethora of life we find now. That takes hundreds of thousands of years. Pretty much all the species we have now (aside from those we\'ve bred specifically) were around back then too.

Ok, now lets shave that time table down a bit. Man didn\'t leave Africa until around 60,000 BC as proven by soil analysis of archeological digs which corrosponds to our genetic "distance" (measuring the rate at which genetic changes occur, and then using DNA from native Africans to determine how long it\'s been since they left africa) from our common mother.. the scientific Eve.
60,000 years is just when we happened to leave Africa.. this doesn\'t count all the 1,000\'s of years we\'ve spent expanding across the globe and setting up cultures that would eventually grow to what we know today.. including religeon.

Now.. Noah lived in a small town right? He was a farmer or a shepard correct? Human\'s didn\'t start creating towns until they learned agriculture. Up until then we were all Hunter/Gatherers who had to stay on the move if we wanted to track prey and eat. The invention of farming allowed tribes to stay in one spot and eventually develop cities. This happened at approximately 20,000 years ago.

So Noah\'s time couldn\'t have been before 20,000 BC at the earlierst. (Not counting the time it would have taken for cities to arize from villages, advanced woodworking and ship building techniques to be learned, and iron to be forged for nails and such). There\'s no possible way evolution can be used to explain how many animals Noah had on his ark. It jus doesn\'t work like that. In 250,000 years, Neanderthal man hadn\'t changed a bit.. and it eventually killed him when a more efficent hunter came into his territory (US). Why should other animal species change so rapidly when even our closest relative can go a quarter of a million years without changing substancially?

[Titan]

Originally posted by Gohan
There is a scientific study going on right now that says all life on earth can be traced back to one woman in eastern africa. I don\'t know the exact statistics;  but they had a show about it on the Discovery channel.

I heard about this. I think they actually think that all humans started from about 5. But if they were just women, were they raped by monkey\'s? (to tell the truth, I\'m only assuming from what I heard).

Originally posted by Titan
I heard about this. I think they actually think that all humans started from about 5. But if they were just women, were they raped by monkey\'s? (to tell the truth, I\'m only assuming from what I heard).

Nah, there were men; but the gene that scientists look for is passed down from woman to woman. So you have the gene but only your sister will pass it on to the next generation.

I don\'t have any sisters and there hasn\'t been a girl ever born into my dads side of the family.

...no...u guys are all wrong.  

all life can be traced back to me....its true..its true,....i am all ur days....yes it did take quite a long time...and effort   but hey...ur all here...dont complain!


but seriously....screw this thread...it is going to become some religion/elevoultion  bull shit

The name of that show was The Real Eve, I saw it last week in a history class of mine in college..

Basically when you are born you get genes from mom and from dad.  Supposedly there is some sorta mithochondria crap that can only be passed on through the females because when the sperm enters the egg, it\'s tail that holds the same type of mitochondria that the egg does is not passed on because  the tail is cut off.... or something like that. :nerd:

It will be interesting to all the people who don\'t believe in God (about 90% of my class).. For me, it was sleeper. lol

[Titan]

I\'m sure that there were more women that it could be traced back to though. They only found a few but because of evolution, there are a helluva lot more.

^^^um.....actually it might not have been "all" life but a very high percentage, as in 99.99 etc. can be traced back to one woman.

They said that there were other women alive at the time of the "real" eve but still all life traces back to her. I don\'t remember how since its been so long since I\'ve seen the show. Maybe serrano remembers.

Naw Gohan, that\'s not it. The real "Eve" isn\'t the mother of the human race. She\'s the mother of the humans who left Africa. The way it goes I guess, is when you\'re DNA reproduces when you have kids, it changes jus a little.. but leaves traces that can be compaired and followed. Kinda like, you\'re DNA is a blueprint for your body.. but also carries with it a rough draft of all the people who came before you. All races of humans in all areas of the world share some similar Y (female) chromosomes up to a point.. which happens to be the point that evidence suggests humans first successfully trekked outta Africa and started populating the rest of the world.

There\'s more diversity in the genes between two seperate african tribes than there is between a Icelander, a Native American, and a Japaneese person. They might look similar, but their genetic "rough drafts" follow the paths led by other "mothers" who stayed in Africa. I find that hard to believe, since they look so similar and we all look so different.. but I guess it\'s true. *Shrugs*

*Back to the topic that started this thread*

Here\'s my 2 cents.  I think that there was definately some mass destruction caused by God, it could have been a flood, maybe not.  So many other religions have a similar story.  For example, in Egyptian mythology, Ra got sick of man and decided to destroy man.  Ra had Horobus blanket the earth in fire, but all the people in the shadows, unseen by the sun, we unharmed.  So Ra went and sent his eye, in the form of Sextet(sp?) to burn the people in hiding with flaming sword.  Before Sextet killed eveyone Ra was thinking he should keep some people alive, so he tricked Sextet into stopping by creating a pool of wine mixed with blood.  When Sextet saw it she couldn\'t help but drink it all, and all those who remained were saved.

The point is, we can\'t fully understand what happened way back when, stories change, but the main message still remains.  Almost every culture has a story of the earth being comsumed by something that killed off most of man.

I believe it happened, but I don\'t know how it happened.  Or for that matter, who specifically survived.

im not gonna bother reading this whole thread but i have to say it bothers me bossieman took the time to research this