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« Reply #75 on: December 27, 2002, 10:49:14 PM »
And are you telling me that projectiles of different types haven\'t always been there?  That the substance we call gun powder hasn\'t always had the properties needed to make a piece of metal go flying through the air at great speeds towards a target?  That the materials used to make a bow haven\'t always had flexible properties that allow them to launch an object?  Those things are very natural.  They didn\'t exist in another form before we got here.  It is just as natural as any other method of attacking prey.  It\'s just that some people wouldn\'t have you believe so, because if you do believe so, you might start to think that some of what humans do isn\'t all that bad afterall.

And besides, Ethugg, what is wrong with hunting a deer?  That is the first animal that comes to mind with the hunting procedure you described.  Let me tell you, where I live, the deer are overpopulated.  There isn\'t enough food to go around.  We are natural predators of the things we eat, and refusing to take on this role causes horrible things like overpopulation.  By hunting deer in this area, all you are doing is keeping more deer from starving, and dying an even worse death.
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« Reply #76 on: December 27, 2002, 11:54:08 PM »
ethugg may be the biggest mentally challenged member.
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« Reply #77 on: December 28, 2002, 04:55:02 AM »
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And are you telling me that projectiles of different types haven\'t always been there?  That the substance we call gun powder hasn\'t always had the properties needed to make a piece of metal go flying through the air at great speeds towards a target?  That the materials used to make a bow haven\'t always had flexible properties that allow them to launch an object?  Those things are very natural.  They didn\'t exist in another form before we got here.  It is just as natural as any other method of attacking prey.  It\'s just that some people wouldn\'t have you believe so, because if you do believe so, you might start to think that some of what humans do isn\'t all that bad afterall.

And besides, Ethugg, what is wrong with hunting a deer?  That is the first animal that comes to mind with the hunting procedure you described.  Let me tell you, where I live, the deer are overpopulated.  There isn\'t enough food to go around.  We are natural predators of the things we eat, and refusing to take on this role causes horrible things like overpopulation.  By hunting deer in this area, all you are doing is keeping more deer from starving, and dying an even worse death.


I wonder whats not natural then

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« Reply #78 on: December 28, 2002, 07:06:45 AM »
#RaCeR#...
That\'s not natural....


/me shoots a bunny and eats it...
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« Reply #79 on: December 28, 2002, 09:58:21 AM »
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I wonder whats not natural then


*shrug*  I don\'t think there is much that is not natural.
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« Reply #80 on: December 28, 2002, 06:48:09 PM »
Technically, everything is natural. Some things we synthesize and shit but it still comes from something natural. Plastic for example comes from natural hydrogen and other atoms. Things that are unnatural do come from natural things though. But it really doesn\'t make them natural. Gunpowder is natural. Atleast to my knowledge it is.
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« Reply #81 on: December 28, 2002, 06:54:12 PM »
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No accounting for the tastes of savages. I love Tofurkey, in  fact, I\'ve had three over the course of Xmas week. They taste great.


So your saying anyone who eats meat is a savage :rolleyes: Do you even know what a savage is? Eating meat is natural of humans. You have the teeth to eat animals, you have always had the tools. In the stone age and ice age, if you didn\'t eat meat, you were f***ed. It wasn\'t a choice. Even up to a couple thousand years ago it wasn\'t a choice. If you didn\'t eat meat, you died. Humans back then didn\'t know meat contained protein. They just knew it kept them alive. They knew if they ate only plants, they\'d get disease and die. You need a source of protein somewhere and they didn\'t have the knowledge to say "hey, that plant there has protein. No more eating meat".
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« Reply #82 on: December 28, 2002, 07:09:19 PM »
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Meat has been there by choice, not for any natural reason. And if we don\'t have natural means to get it, bows and guns aren\'t natural, then humans naturally at best are scavengers. We are NOT natural hunters. Our teeth are barely capable of ripping flesh, they are not made for it in any way. Pandas and gorillas that are vegan have very small \'canine\' teeth like us, they are not there for tearing meat.


I didn\'t see this part. Anyway, we just didn\'t use guns and bows to kill animals. First off, guns weren\'t around until the 1500s. Even then, they weren\'t accurate. Bows have been around for thousands of years. In the stone age, we used natural things like sharpened sticks, spears with a sharp rock head attacted to a stick, harpoons. Those were all made from animal bone and hide, trees, sticks, rocks, ect. Those are all natural things. Our canines are very capable of ripping flesh. They are the longest teeth in your mouth and that\'s why. I\'ve tried eating me that I couldnt tear with my front teeth and molars. But stick the piece of meat between my canines and boom. Smaller meat. I tear through it like a hot knife through butter. BTW, we are omnivores. That\'s why our teeth are made for both. If we were true carnivores, all our teeth would be jagged. If we were made for plants (btw, we wouldn\'t be able to digest meat if we were herbivores. we\'d puke it up or even die. feed a giraffe a pound of meat, no more giraffe), our teeth would be completely flat. Our teeth are a combination of the two. They are sharp and flat hence we are omnivores and can digest meat without a problem. Back to my origional point, we are not the only ones who use tools to kill its prey. Monkeys, yes monkeys (and Clyde can attest to this :p ) use things like spears to kill other small animals, including other monkeys. Hell, chimpanzees actually have battle tactics to corner a small monkey and then kill it. Believe it or not, they are omnivores and are just like us. Hell, we are like 99% genetically identical to chimps. We evolved along with them. Thats why we use them for drug testing. What happens to them happens to us. Ok, enough of my mindless bullshit about chimps, back to the topic....actually, I finished what I wanted to say long before. We are not natural herbivores. The human mind is so individual, humans do what they want.
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« Reply #83 on: December 29, 2002, 06:21:17 AM »
I am with Titan.

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« Reply #84 on: December 29, 2002, 12:42:22 PM »
^^^ I like this guy :D
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« Reply #85 on: December 29, 2002, 01:21:03 PM »
I like u too then:D

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« Reply #86 on: December 30, 2002, 09:22:43 AM »
I don\'t think Ethug will post again :)
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« Reply #87 on: January 17, 2003, 04:30:28 AM »
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« Reply #88 on: January 17, 2003, 07:13:47 AM »
You know, If we werent supposed to eat meat, God wouldnt have made it taste so good.  This thread has made numerous turns and twists and is giving me motion sickness.  through our entire history, Humans have hunted.  our body gets alot of its nutrition from meat.  That doesnt mean you can find other ways of gaining those nutrients, but, none the less.  Meat is good.  Id like someones oppinion on animals killing other animals.  Humans arent the only animal to kill Just for the sake of killing.  Wolves or wild dogs do this.  In a wolfe pack, there is always one that get tore up by the other.  sometimes killed.  Anyway, before I get off track, GOOD JOB CHIZZY  now you should go kill some kittens. :)

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« Reply #89 on: January 17, 2003, 12:35:02 PM »
If humans can\'t eat meat, then why can lions hunt and rip its prey apart and that\'s ok? Lets give a lion a head of lettuce instead. We are animals just like all the other species on this planet.
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