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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2003, 06:27:27 AM »
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Moral of the story

Don’t train and support potential monsters, because one day they come back to bite us on the respective Ass


I understand that complaint. During WW2, we helped USSR and China. When the war was over, we nearly got into WW3 with USSR.

Point is, you never know. You wanna defeat the enemy? Well, you can\'t win without help from some of your less derable neighbors so you do the best you can.
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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2003, 06:29:10 AM »
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Come on ooseven, prosecuting an agency for the policy of the government during that time period?  That is insane.  When the US and the UK gave support to these people, they were fighting a common enemy (ie. Iran or the USSR).  It was a different time with different motives for supporting these people.  

If you really want to go down this path, why not persecute the Germans who actually sold components to Iraq to build weapons of mass destruction.


thats insane ?

whats more insane.

using diplomatic and economic means to reduce the USSR\'s infulence durin the 80\'s

or

Arming "the Butcher of Baghdad with enough chemical and biological weapons to kill the world 4 times over.

remember the USSR and even Iran was never in the position to do the old "empire" expansion.

USSR was always on the verdge of economic collapse (even during the 80\'s)

and As for Iran... they where to busy reforming their country under Islamic law to pose a threat.

in fact they could of finished of Saddam long before the end of the 80\'s.

Remember the only thing that stopped them winning the war was the fact that saddam was supplyed and used the chemical weapons he "aquired" :rolleyes:
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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2003, 06:31:27 AM »
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thats insane ?

whats more insane.

using diplomatic and economic means to reduce the USSR\'s infulence durin the 80\'s

or

Arming "the Butcher of Baghdad with enough chemical and biological weapons to kill the world 4 times over.

remember the USSR and even Iran was never in the position to do the old "empire" expansion.

USSR was always on the verdge of economic collapse (even during the 80\'s)

and As for Iran... they where to busy reforming their country under Islamic law to pose a threat.

in fact they could of finished of Saddam long before the end of the 80\'s.

Remember the only thing that stopped them winning the war was the fact that saddam was supplyed and used the chemical weapons he "aquired" :rolleyes:


The US didn\'t supply him with the chemical and biological weapons he has... *looks over in the direction of Europe*
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« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2003, 06:33:38 AM »
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I don\'t see any other options...

Assassination?  good luck finding him (well the real Saddam anyway)

Sanctions?  they don\'t work.

Inspections?  they don\'t work either.

Exile?  He won\'t go.


Revolutions

oh wait forgot.

George Bush.... GWB\'s daddy tryed that one.

remember the anouncment just after the Gulf War

"if the Iraqi people rise up the West will suppot them"

and what happend

they rebeled took control of Bazra (sp) for 2 days in fact.

and what happned next ?

well we just sat on our hands while the reformed Republican Gaurd salughtered Iraqi rebels in their 1000\'s

Woot it almost makes you proud you on the side of right :rolleyes:
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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2003, 06:35:39 AM »
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Revolutions

oh wait forgot.

George Bush.... GWB\'s daddy tryed that one.

remember the anouncment just after the Gulf War

"if the Iraqi people rise up the West will suppot them"

and what happend

they rebeled took control of Bazra (sp) for 2 days in fact.

and what happned next ?

well we just sat on our hands while the reformed Republican Gaurd salughtered Iraqi rebels in their 1000\'s

Woot it almost makes you proud you on the side of right :rolleyes:


ooseven, the UN tied our hands on that one.  The UN resolution only called for the liberation of Kuwait, not the overthrow of Saddam.
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« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2003, 06:41:47 AM »
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The US didn\'t supply him with the chemical and biological weapons he has... *looks over in the direction of Europe*


sorry but but i seam to remember in saying everyone was to blame.

i mean here we have The Iraqi Dictatorship fashion range ..availbe if only you has 11% of the Worlds Oil reserves that is ;).

Weapons grade Anthrax From Mr Rundsfeld (US)

Nuclear Reactor by France

Special Forces training for Saddams personal body guards by the SAS (UK)

T45 Main Battle Tanks from the former USSR

Ak47’s by God Know’s who most likely the former USSR

VX Gas…isn’t that American ?

Mig’s 21 from the former USSR.

Intel during the Iran/Iraq war.. the CIA

Silkworm “anti ship” missiles from the Peoples republic of China

AAA guns mixture usually old from Europan countries (UK...France...Germany)

SCUD’s From North Korea

Iraqi Super Gun parts from UK
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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2003, 06:43:24 AM »
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ooseven, the UN tied our hands on that one.  The UN resolution only called for the liberation of Kuwait, not the overthrow of Saddam.


nope the UN didn\'t Block that one.

but we where Advised Against it.
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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2003, 06:44:11 AM »
ooseven can you provide a link to the US supplying weapons grade anthrax?  Also the supergun is sort of irrelevant as it was never used and is pretty much non existant.  The UK caught their mistake and nipped it in the bud.
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« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2003, 06:49:48 AM »
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ooseven can you provide a link to the US supplying weapons grade anthrax?  Also the supergun is sort of irrelevant as it was never used and is pretty much non existant.  The UK caught their mistake and nipped it in the bud.


Anthrax was supplyed by person or Persons Unknown but the man responcible at the time as Mr Rundsfeld.

and As for the Super Gun.

Iraq alread have smaller version..prob build with British parts . that can launch Artillery shells well over 300 miles.  

the Super Gun was caught in time but it was just a small Piece in a much larger project.

exact number for these Medium range guns is unknown but intelligence sources and reports have suggested that they have at least 4 that are known all within striking distance of a one of the main battle rallying points.

oh and as for the VX gas

we do know he was sold it beacuse the UN weapons insectors are curently looking for it now.
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« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2003, 06:52:18 AM »
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« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2003, 06:54:17 AM »
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« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2003, 06:56:11 AM »
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No firm decision yet by the UN but the tide is turning in favor of Bush.

On Feb. 5th Secretary of State Colin Powell is due to lay out more evidence.

Ace


Ok, Looking forward to seeing the new evidence.. I\'ve been curious ever since they announced they had new evidence.

Just like Christmas ;)
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« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2003, 07:01:53 AM »
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Thanks fastson... I am being lazy today ;)


sorry buddy if i offended you  .. i got a "bit" :rolleyes: carryed away :(.

its just that the Whole Situation Sucks Monkey Nuts and from the looks of things it could indeed get worse, with the portential of Terrorests either

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  • Getting Weapons of Mass destruction directly from Saddam



or

  • Getting Weapons of Mass destruction from Iraqi compounds which have just been evacuated by iraqi forces.
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« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2003, 07:03:35 AM »
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sorry buddy if i offended you  .. i got a "bit" :rolleyes: carryed away :(.

its just that the Whole Situation Sucks Monkey Nuts and from the looks of things it could indeed get worse, with the portential of Terrorests either

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  • Getting Weapons of Mass destruction directly from Saddam



or

  • Getting Weapons of Mass destruction from Iraqi compounds which have just been evacuated by iraqi forces.


No offense taken ooseven - I am in a bad mood today anyway and knotters post pissed me off... damn Dutch, they are getting as bad as the French and the Germans. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2003, 07:07:18 AM »
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No offense taken ooseven - I am in a bad mood today anyway and knotters post pissed me off... damn Dutch, they are getting as bad as the French and the Germans. :rolleyes:


God at least you can count on us Brits to stand shoulder to shoulder with you.

I know I might seam like a raving anti-war mad man… but when the War dose start I will give my 100% support to our Brave men and Women (both US & UK) who are putting their life’s on the line for our Freedom.
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