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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2003, 08:23:21 AM »
Point taken. I am sorry if you felt I was bashing your opinion but I just wish some people would do something about the corruption within the church rather than just talk about it.
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2003, 08:35:38 AM »
I didnt feel you were bashing my opinion...no harm, no foul.

I think something should be done as well, but from within AND out of the church. It would certainly have to be some religious and some objective ppl in the organization to do it. Definitely not ppl like me who arent interested in organized religion since they would only be half assed anyway.
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2003, 02:22:47 PM »
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I just got back from the front lobby of my work place. I was called up front only to find my beautiful wife and my lovely daughter standing there with a red rose and a simple balloon that says, “we love you”. She had it specially made to say that considering that I have become a father and this is the first Valentines day my daughter will spend with me. God is so good. As for you Avy, I am no longer going to indulge you in this game you wish to play. Please accept my apologies for not continuing but as I said before, your heart is not in the right place for you to understand. But trust me, I will hold you in my prayers in hopes that God will soften your spirit to the truth.


My spirit was softened to your truth; I\'ve been where you are now. Fortunatley I was shown another brand of truth, Science. "Test everything, if it fails, try something else". Doesn\'t that seem more comforting to you than relying on blind faith?
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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2003, 02:59:22 AM »
Now I know why religious discussion is banned from the other forums I visit.

All Christians are not bad.  I\'ve done countless things to help out the elderly and less fortunate in my community (thanks largely to the church).  Most would spend 100% of their weekends & summers for themselves but thank goodness everyone\'s different. :)  Halleleujah!!!!!11111111
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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2003, 03:56:15 AM »
O fcourse they arent. Just like all blacks dont steal, all hispanics arent lazy and dirty..etc..etc..

Every group religous or not has its bad apples.

I as well do things to help ppl, but not in the name aof a particular religion. :)
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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2003, 09:05:21 AM »
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you dont think religion has done anything good for this world?


Take a look at the middle east. People are strapping bombs to themselves and calling themselves mytrs. In the middle ages, Protestants and Catholics have been slaughtering eachother and in parts of the world, still are. The Halocaust. Need I say more? Jews were slaughtered by Christians for their beliefs. In Egypt thousands of years ago, Hebrews were enslaved. People in the Crusades marched to their own deaths in search of the Holy Grail or whatever religious artifact they were searching for.

Good, yes they have done some good. They give something for people to believe in and they help in charities and give poor people hope. Thats all I see. IMO, religion has done more harm than good. Clowd, btw, I am Catholic so don\'t call me a heretic or anything. I\'m just not as religious as you.
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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2003, 04:34:34 PM »
I said before religion is the reason for all the blood spilt on the Earth.

When I say religion has done good for this world I mean religion encourages people to be good.  If you believe in the bible and God then you would have to follow God\'s laws in the bible.  Do not committ adultery,  do not steal,  etc.  If your atheist then its more like "Do what you want,  your in the driver\'s seat".  The bible sets a moral code for the world.  And most religions tell their followers to follow that code.  I am glad that they encourage people to study the bible and apply what it says to their life.  You can\'t go wrong following the bible.  It was inspired by God.
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« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2003, 01:32:15 AM »
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I said before religion is the reason for all the blood spilt on the Earth.

When I say religion has done good for this world I mean religion encourages people to be good.  If you believe in the bible and God then you would have to follow God\'s laws in the bible.  Do not committ adultery,  do not steal,  etc.  If your atheist then its more like "Do what you want,  your in the driver\'s seat".  The bible sets a moral code for the world.  And most religions tell their followers to follow that code.  I am glad that they encourage people to study the bible and apply what it says to their life.  You can\'t go wrong following the bible.  It was inspired by God.


Ahh yes, but I am not so weak minded that I need a bible and "god" to live a good, decent life. I dont need someone or something to tell me how I should live when they are usually just a  hypocrite anyway.
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« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2003, 09:56:01 AM »
There are religious people that I wouldn\'t want to walk down my street. There are bad religious people. There are good morale Athiests. I never said that people that believe in god are bad, I\'m just saying that billions of people don\'t have to die due to religion.
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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2003, 11:05:13 AM »
Yeah, their are good believers, and bad.

Its something to believe, something to make you think that someone is in charge, someone watching you, someone taking care of you.

I myself am baptisted christian, but I dont go to church (once a month maybe, but always on Christmas). I dont really believe most of this stuff.

Where is God now when we need him most in the world?
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« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2003, 12:27:32 PM »
I\'m Catholic and I doubt a lot of the teachings, doubting the stories and everything. I still go to church on sundays and holidays and play trumpet in the music.
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« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2003, 01:34:13 PM »
Have you ever been to band camp?
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« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2003, 04:30:03 PM »
Whoa...I never meant for this thing to become a religious discussion.  I just wanted to show you all how extreme some people get in "protecting" this country and that I hope none of you think the same way as the preacher in the article does.

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When I say religion has done good for this world I mean religion encourages people to be good.

You\'re right, religion encourages people to do good.  However, I strongly believe that it\'s early parental guidance that makes people live good lives as well.  It\'s not just religion that encourages good morals.
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« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2003, 06:28:13 PM »
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Have you ever been to band camp?


Yes :( I feel like the biggest nerd today. BTW, I do hate marching band with a passion and I\'m glad I don\'t have to do it for a long ass time.
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« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2003, 03:41:42 AM »
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Ahh yes, but I am not so weak minded that I need a bible and "god" to live a good, decent life. I dont need someone or something to tell me how I should live when they are usually just a  hypocrite anyway.
I would have to say that as a Christian, I am not so weak minded that I rely on the Bible and God to be a “good” person. The Bible simply put says “no one can come to the Father (God) except thru me (Jesus)”. Good works will not get me to heaven; thus bad deeds will not always send me to hell. Accepting Jesus as your personal savior is all one must do to become saved and enter into Heaven. The next step in any new Christians life is to become more knowledgeable of the Word and to allow the Holy Spirit to convict us of things that are not of God. We need to abstain from the things that might injure our walk with Christ. I don’t think that living this kind of lifestyle is for anybody weak in mind but for those that are, God will strengthen.

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