Americans are cowards

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by project86
I say that only because SER mad a good point in saying that it is going to happen. Our government is hell bent on taking this guy out and we have no say in the matter. This is where our democratic position does nothing to sway the government. If they feel he (Saddam) or anybody for that matter is a threat, the government will try to take them out. It’s out of my hands but I will be in support of what they decide because I am still a free man. When the government decides to take my freedom, that is when I will not agree with them, however that is not happening in this case.

That seems contradictory to me.

Isn\'t taking away your say on such a matter, in effect, taking away the freedom?

Whoah wait, so you Think its justified to Invade another country, because a group of terroists who we have no evidence supporting they were even connected to Iraq, attacked us? So if 5 Americans went and blew up something in another country, and they weren\'t part of our govermant, and we didn\'t help them, and then that other country invaded, you would agree with them? Cause thats what your sounding like to me.

And if Iraq has been giving all these chemicals to terroists, why did they use planes?

good lord, someone needs a clue

[Titan]

Originally posted by luckee
Like I said before, he is a very dangerous man, but not to us at the moment.
 

Thats the whole point. We are going to war with him because he does have the weapons and we are the probable first target. We need to get him out before our civilians die.

The oil argument is a poor attempt at diverting the true reason why we must do what we have to do for the good of our country and our allies. Not to mention freeing the Iraqi people from the horror that they know as Saddam.

If oil was our only reason for this then why oh why haven\'t we just gone in and taken them at will. We could certainly take the whole region if we really wanted to. Why did we not take the oil fields during the first war?

Of course I am now going to be told we have a piss poor past in the region and on some level must take it until it hurts.

Ace

Originally posted by project86
Guys like you and the rest of those who are so quick to judge the actions of the United States make me sick. The only cowards I see are those much like yourself who have decided to forget September 11th and all who died in the senseless attacks. I have not forgotten, nor will I undergo such a radical change of heart as I see so many “Americans” (if they can call themselves that) have. It’s pathetic when we as a nation cannot stand in unity against a tyrannical bully that has not only been a threat to other sistering nations but to his own people. But please, don’t let me be the one to turn your head to what is right.

Quick to judge?! The US bombed civilians over 50 years ago. Its not like it happened last week and I\'m jumping to conclusions. I just like bringing up the fact that the US was part of one of the worst terrorist attacks in history when people talk about moral and ethical stances against terrorism.

I have not forgotten September 11. In fact, I think that you have. No one, in the media or otherwise, has ever made the point that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. As a matter of fact 14 of the terrorists came from one of our "allies".

We are going to go to war. That much is obvious. People that protest for/against the war should know that people will die regardless of what we do.

BTW, You are pretty much a joke. Its people like you that I don\'t understand. You accept everything that the Govt. spoon feeds you and never speak up because you are blind patriots. The fact that I do live in the US gives me the right to talk shit about it. If you want a country where no one says anything bad then pack up your flag and move your stupid ass to Communist China.

Originally posted by Titan


Thats the whole point. We are going to war with him because he does have the weapons and we are the probable first target. We need to get him out before our civilians die.

You much like our government have no concrete proof. The UN is a joke going about finding what they may have. Id support the US conducting searches themselves b/c I know they would pull all of the stops.

For those that say it isnt entirely or majorly about oil, then answer this logically. Why have we not taken a stronger stance against N.Korea then???

We KNOW they have the nukes, we also KNOW they can do some damage on the west coast, yet no talks of invading them.

[Titan]

luckee, you have no proof that we are going to war because of oil so shut up. And we haven\'t taken a stance on NK because the US cannot afford to have two wars at a time. After our war with Iraq is over, we will shift attention to NK. We don\'t have the resources to take out Iraq\'s army and NK\'s army.

Originally posted by Titan
luckee, you have no proof that we are going to war because of oil so shut up. And we haven\'t taken a stance on NK because the US cannot afford to have two wars at a time. After our war with Iraq is over, we will shift attention to NK. We don\'t have the resources to take out Iraq\'s army and NK\'s army.

Your level of intelligence and maturity is starting to show as usual.

In your eloquent words.. we dont have proof it isnt about oil, so shut up.....

You\'re right..we only know NK has them and can actually hit us, yet we dont even know for sure if Saddam has them.

The US bombed civilians over 50 years ago. Its not like it happened last week and I\'m jumping to conclusions. I just like bringing up the fact that the US was part of one of the worst terrorist attacks in history when people talk about moral and ethical stances against terrorism.

i PRAY you are not referring to hiroshimo and nagasaki
if so, yer credibility goes right out the window

[Titan]

I\'m sorry about that. I was going to delete it and forgot. Sorry about that. But you are right in that post (besides the part about telling me to shut up ). I do believe we are rushing into this war. I believe we should go to war, but after the inspectors find any threats (which things are turning up).

[SirMystiq]

Guys, Guys, Guys........

I gave up with this shit. Well, not really but my opinions aren\'t going to change anything. Which that goes completely against to what this country is supposed to stand for. People choose what this country does. Never have I heard Bush or any of his Nuke Squad mention anything about the public opinion, what the people want, or what they think. Sure, there have been polls that say that most Americans want war, yet those polls aren\'t valid. Unless they go around and interview every single person living in this country, those kind of polls do not matter.

I know some of you might say, "Well you\'re opinions don\'t matter b/c they have no and we are fighting for freedom, REMEMBER 9/11!!! REMEMBER!!!!

Sure, Remember 9/11. Wasn\'t the government urging us to put that behind us? Yet, every day we are being reminded? What happened happened. We can\'t change the past. But we can change the future. Going to war with a country that supposedly has Nukes isn\'t very smart. They have done NOTHING to the US. They have many times said they have no kind of weapons, sure they\'re not very trustworthy, but where would this world go if there is no trust? The US just keeps pushing at them, claiming they must be disarmed, they want a war with no proof or evidence. Besides Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11.

Osama still living. Probably living in Beverly Hills with his 19 wifes. Washing himself with US dollars. While shooting some bald eagles right in front of the FBI offices. Maybe, he even took time to walk into UN and plant a bomb in every seat, he might of taken a nap in there too. I hope he was nice enough to say bye to the security guards. He probably went out with GWB daughter, slammed her a couple of times and got her back home on his Stretched Escalade that says, "Osama riding in here". People have probably reported sightings of Osama, yet the US government, the same smart people that could of prevented 9/11 or at least tried to, they have yet to approve of such evidence. A week after the UN blows, they finally realize what those people said was true. They will probably want to start a war with Russia b/c they have some kind of new weapon that doesn\'t exist, yet they will be very sure of it........

My point?
Osama still living, NK still threatening, Hussain still rejecting, Bush still being a dumbass.

But, we can\'t "Misunderestimate" Bush...

Dont take out the oil equation here. Remember Panama, Grenada and many other little adventures? Where the heck was the CIAs gurus when 911 occured? Asleep? There is more.

Here is a thought about the suicide bombers. They are told to strap on a bomb and wander into a bus or public area and kill themselves. Easy no trial no punishment(at least from man) and no inprisonment with a promise they will spend eternity with a bunch of virgins.

Who gives these orders? The likes of Islamic Bin laden? Its always young men who carry out this maddness. My question would be if I am ordered by a Bin Laden to kill myself for the cause is....How the hell did you get to be old?

Who is the real coward here?

so here\'s the real question if bush is such a "dumbass"

wtf would u guys do if u sat in his chair?

thats right, not a damn thing

easy to take shots from watching in the stands

[SirMystiq]

Shit tell the sucker to give me a chance. I know I won\'t get my priorities ****ed up and won\'t get the US destroyed.