why bomb journalists?

Tyrant, none of us know what really was going on in the building.  As vid said before, the Iraqi paramilitary forces or troops have occupied hospitals and mosques and have used them to fire at coalition troops.  This is the same tactic as using human shields and if they were in teh abu dhabi building then they were effectively using reporters as human shields.

Originally posted by Clowd


 Your army has setup some sort of medieval seige around the city,  shelling thousands of pounds of explosives and uranium and who knows what else in there.  It must be hell in the city.  

Those bombs that they dropped on Hussein yesterday.  That was in the middle of town.  Who knows what they blew up or killed.  They even admitted the area was dense with civilians.


Why won\'t you join Bill O\'Reily and his "its the Iraqi civilians fault for not leaving" or "we need to take out their TV no matter what the cost"

Well when you act like a barbarian you get treated like one eh Clowd?

As for O\' Reilly, he is a pretty cool guy IMO.

And the same point was made that they didnt fire upon those or or *civilian* locations...so why now?

Like I said luckee we don\'t know why the decision was made to do it.  I am sure they had a reason.  Until this war is over we won\'t know 90 percent of what is going on.  Civilian casualites are unavoidable, but for the most part I think coalition forces have done a great job considering the urban warfare that has taken place.  If you look at this war in context with other major battles that have taken place over the last 100 years in urban environments the US and allies have been very careful to limit civilian casualties.

The "good old days" of armies lining up in non populated areas to settle their differences ended around WWI.  How many times have we seen footage of coalition troops waving civilians away from convoys for example?  If the US didn\'t care about killing civilians we would have turned Baghdad into another Dresden.

Why, b/c OUR media says so. While I know ours is much more believable than theirs, surely you dont believe everything they are saying about this war, and you seem to, which is why I bring this up.

You people drive me insane. You find one mishap and blow it up, and even if it\'s explained it doesn\'t matter cuz it\'s always the U.S.\'s fault. SHUT THE **** UP

I watched the VIDEO on CNN. One hotel had like 100 Iraqis firing out of the windows at troops. But the one that killed the al jazeer guy had a fuking sniper by him. They retaliated and killed the sniper and the jounalist with him by accident. What? You think we just want to kill him for fun cuz we\'re bloodthirsty? Give me a break, look who is talking. They have pregnant women blow themselves up just to kill 4 people. Yeah, the U.S. troops are part of the Devils army waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh :rolleyes:

As for Clowd, shit. Bush as Napoleon? How so? We aren\'t conquering lands we\'re fuking freeing people from the horrible dictator that controls them.

There will always be civilian casualities, and mistakes. Blaming it on an entire nation and it\'s cause, well thats retarded.

What did I just say luckee?  I said we don\'t know 90 percent of what is going on and that includes the crap we get from the media.  

In regards to that, the media hasn\'t really mentioned anything about the reporters other than the fact they were killed.  Like I said, I don\'t know and as far I can tell the US media doesn\'t either.

So since you have such the open mind.......


Look at some of the blind sheep *patriots* in here.

You cant tell me that they dont exsist on the battlefield as well.

Dont be ignorant.

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ViVi, as much as I agree with you, please don\'t curse.  

Originally posted by ViVi
You people drive me insane. You find one mishap and blow it up, and even if it\'s explained it doesn\'t matter cuz it\'s always the U.S.\'s fault. SHUT THE **** UP

I watched the VIDEO on CNN. One hotel had like 100 Iraqis firing out of the windows at troops. But the one that killed the al jazeer guy had a fuking sniper by him. They retaliated and killed the sniper and the jounalist with him by accident. What? You think we just want to kill him for fun cuz we\'re bloodthirsty? Give me a break, look who is talking. They have pregnant women blow themselves up just to kill 4 people. Yeah, the U.S. troops are part of the Devils army waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh :rolleyes:

As for Clowd, shit. Bush as Napoleon? How so? We aren\'t conquering lands we\'re fuking freeing people from the horrible dictator that controls them.

There will always be civilian casualities, and mistakes. Blaming it on an entire nation and it\'s cause, well thats retarded.

I didn\'t see the video, did the al jazeer reporter have a sniper next to him?

i really hate to say it, i gotta agree with vivi (for once)

Originally posted by luckee
So since you have such the open mind.......


Look at some of the blind sheep *patriots* in here.

You cant tell me that they dont exsist on the battlefield as well.

Dont be ignorant.

I can\'t believe you compared some of us on this board to our troops on the battlefield.  I don\'t see the connection.  We are debating/discussing... they are fighting and dying.  If I were on the battlefield my top priority would be to keep myself and my buddies alive.  That has nothing to do with patriotism.

vivi, get yer facts straight, their was no sniper near the aljazeera guy, even so i doubt that a sniper no matter how good he is can put a bullet thru an airplane flying at high speed.
and as for the hotel comment is this the building yer reffering to

coz its not the hotel i was reffering to. this is a RG building.

even the british reporters at the hotel said their was no shots being fired from the hotel.

Tyrant, *if* there was a sniper next to the reporter and he was shooting at troops on the ground then air support would have been called in.  We don\'t know all the facts and regardless of what side of this debate you stand on there is not one person who knows what was really going on.  Hell, there could have been a couple of snipers in the building for all we know.  This would fit the Iraqi MO as they are using civilian places to hole up and shoot at troops wouldn\'t it?

noone can contest that the iraqi\'s have been using civilians as suicide bomb carrier\'s and human shields

the iraqi elite army even dresses thier troops in civilians clothes and walk around with children