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« Reply #105 on: April 27, 2003, 06:34:41 PM »
So why can\'t the universe be first and no God?  Why does something have to create the universe?

Is it easier to believe a God just apperaed out of no where than a universe to appear out of no where?

One point I\'ll have to throw out is there is proof there is a universe.
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« Reply #106 on: April 27, 2003, 06:34:49 PM »
There are thousands of reasons we could be here, none of which have any truth behind them.  

We can not understand why things are here, where they came from, and what they are. The universe is a mystery.  

Perhaps it all just Is, and that is it. Maybe
we are never meant to know.
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« Reply #107 on: April 27, 2003, 06:38:59 PM »
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So why can\'t the universe be first and no God?  Why does something have to create the universe?

Is it easier to believe a God just apperaed out of no where than a universe to appear out of no where?

One point I\'ll have to throw out is there is proof there is a universe.


Sorry, just doesn\'t make sense to me. There has to be a great premise for everything that we know of. For being, life, existence.
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« Reply #108 on: April 27, 2003, 06:45:29 PM »
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Sorry, just doesn\'t make sense to me. There has to be a great premise for everything that we know of. For being, life, existence.


Which is exactly why gods were created. Look how many different gods there are from Allah to Zeus.

Ppl have to have things to believe in life.
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« Reply #109 on: April 27, 2003, 06:49:45 PM »
Well I stand firm in my belief of God and the savior Jesus Christ.

Life and Death are two elements that surpass the realm of modern science and simple logic.
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« Reply #110 on: April 27, 2003, 06:55:17 PM »
It\'s real tough to defend that there is a God.  There are so many things you just have to "believe".
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« Reply #111 on: April 27, 2003, 07:01:12 PM »
It\'s tough to defend that there is a God to non-believers because they only want the cold, hard facts. But like I said before:

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Believing in God and knowing he exists is similar to the way a jury comes up with a verdict without actually seeing the crime that was commited. You have your evidence and intuition.
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« Reply #112 on: April 27, 2003, 07:03:24 PM »
The facts on religion are that there aren\'t any.  That\'s why they call it faith.  Believe or don\'t.  The fact is, no one can prove their beliefs to anyone else.  Trying to argue that your way of viewing something that no one totally understands is right, and another person\'s views are wrong is just arrogant.
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« Reply #113 on: April 27, 2003, 07:05:18 PM »
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Well I stand firm in my belief of God and the savior Jesus Christ.

Life and Death are two elements that surpass the realm of modern science and simple logic.


nope. we\'re all on a big ball of rock hurtling through space in just the right conditions for life to spawn. give a couple dozen million years, and voila!. The sheer laws of probability govern that in a universe as vast as this that one star would have one ball of rock that this could happen on. Get used to it. Primitive man could not comprehend this, so they invent a story to explain everything in a nutshell including a little bit to make you not feel bad about dying.

I\'m gonna be worm food someday. So are you. Get used to it, kid. Do you hoonestly see yourself skipping happily through heaven tra-la, tra-la... with happy jesus and happy god and your little dog skip?

You\'re here for a blink of an eye, kid. Then you\'re dirt.
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« Reply #114 on: April 27, 2003, 07:05:34 PM »
Exactly. I can\'t prove my belief because I don\'t have those facts that you\'ve mentioned. The answers can only be found in one\'s own divine intellect.
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« Reply #115 on: April 27, 2003, 07:07:20 PM »
Alot of people don\'t like admitting that there is a God primarily because they don\'t like to think that there is someone or something greater then they, that could have an impact on the outcome of their life.

The way I see it, God the creator makes a hell of a lot more sense then evolution. Its been proven, not just in the Bible, but by countless ancient texts, that Jesus did infact exsist, and did infact rise from the dead. Now, the fact alone that if Jesus really did exsist, puts far more weight on the argument on God then anything else.
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« Reply #116 on: April 27, 2003, 07:10:03 PM »
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nope. we\'re all on a big ball of rock hurtling through space in just the right conditions for life to spawn. give a couple dozen million years, and voila!. The sheer laws of probability govern that in a universe as vast as this that one star would have one ball of rock that this could happen on. Get used to it. Primitive man could not comprehend this, so they invent a story to explain everything in a nutshell including a little bit to make you not feel bad about dying.

I\'m gonna be worm food someday. So are you. Get used to it, kid. Do you hoonestly see yourself skipping happily through heaven tra-la, tra-la... with happy jesus and happy god and your little dog skip?

You\'re here for a blink of an eye, kid. Then you\'re dirt.


That is true, to a certain extent. Just another one of the many philosophies on life. I think life is a little more complex than that, but we all have our own opinions on this matter.
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« Reply #117 on: April 27, 2003, 07:10:16 PM »
"Believing in God and knowing he exists is similar to the way a jury comes up with a verdict without actually seeing the crime that was commited. You have your evidence and intuition. "


That is a horrible analogy.  Are there any at all cold hard facts that there is a God?

That would be like sending a dude to the electric chair because a witness said "I believe that is the guy who ckilled the chick.  I\'ve never seen him, but how else can you explain it?  I mean, she\'s dead and there has to be a reason."
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« Reply #118 on: April 27, 2003, 07:14:16 PM »
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Alot of people don\'t like admitting that there is a God primarily because they don\'t like to think that there is someone or something greater then they, that could have an impact on the outcome of their life.

The way I see it, God the creator makes a hell of a lot more sense then evolution. Its been proven, not just in the Bible, but by countless ancient texts, that Jesus did infact exsist, and did infact rise from the dead. Now, the fact alone that if Jesus really did exsist, puts far more weight on the argument on God then anything else.


I agree. Many atheists aren\'t comfortable with the notion that they are being judged by a force that they can\'t even see, or don\'t even have any factual evidence that it really exists. Therefore its much easier to shrug it off as if it doesn\'t exist.

However don\'t think I am some zealous Christian because you all know as well as I do that that is not the case. I keep my beliefs to myself, and try my best to live by his word, live a good moral life, and wah-lah, achieve eternal life.
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« Reply #119 on: April 27, 2003, 07:18:32 PM »
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That is a horrible analogy.  Are there any at all cold hard facts that there is a God?



All 62 books that compromise the Bible and my intuition is enough for me. Perhaps they aren\'t the cold/hard facts you speak of, but when you actually sit and read the Bible, things make sense. Prophecies have been accurate and there is just so much historic evidence that many of it was in fact true.
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