OMG, <Gasp> Real reason for war was to make a statement?

The fact is the war was a great success. If we initiate change then it will be an even bigger success. Once all the pieces of the puzzle are put together everything will become clear.

I think if we do not find clear evidence of WoMD (even the ones that were destroyed days before the war started) then GWB has some problems. I guarantee you that GWB will make sure heads will roll if the intelligence was incorrect.

Ace

personally i dont care wether the war was about oil, liberation, womd\'s, terrorists or whatever, i\'m just glad saddam is gone.
i only wish that the iraqi\'s get their heads out of their asses and work to get their country back on track (the U.S govt. must help too).

Originally posted by Tyrant
personally i dont care wether the war was about oil, liberation, womd\'s, terrorists or whatever, i\'m just glad saddam is gone.
i only wish that the iraqi\'s get their heads out of their asses and work to get their country back on track (the U.S govt. must help too).

I agree with everything in your post Tyrant.  I don\'t care if it was about WoMD, terrorism or a regime change.  Saddam was bad news period and the Iraqi people along with the region will be much better off without him in the long run.  I don\'t understand why some want the US to pull out immediately.

The issue of WoMD coming to be the most evident and clear reason for the war only came about due to the lack of the UN to take a stand on something.

[Living-In-Clip]

If these people are "savages" and what not - what was the point of a regime change? Don\'t say terrorist links, because they can be found everywhere, including in our own homeland , so give that a break.

And I would imagine that you would act like a "savage" , if another country came in and blew everything up, got rid of everything you was use to. Fact is, there is no goverment there now and no one to control them. Any country in the same position would act the same. It\'s human nature.
 
The war was a success? What the hell? One would hope so. The America military (mixed with British) fighting the Iraqi military is akin to the 16 year old bully beating up a 8 year old and saying, "look at me, I\'m oh so strong". Success? Yes. Big deal? Not really. A so-called "super-power" country beat up a third world country, gee, who would of figured?

And yes, at this point we and the Iraqi people would be better off if Saddam was still in power. We would of not lost innocent lives on both sides. The Iraqi people would still have some form of goverment, even if it was a dicator. And we American\'s wouldn\'t have to foot the bill to rebuild a country , that we should of never blew up in the first place.

As for what I\'ll do if Bush gets a second term. I\'ll grit my teeth and know that it is his last term, thank the lord. I am not a biblical person, but I sometimes think that if anyone could bring about biblical armageddon, then it would be GWB and his trigger happy Adminstration.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The war was a success? What the hell? One would hope so. The America military (mixed with British) fighting the Iraqi military is akin to the 16 year old bully beating up a 8 year old and saying, "look at me, I\'m oh so strong". Success? Yes. Big deal? Not really. A so-called "super-power" country beat up a third world country, gee, who would of figured?
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Sorry, but we heard a lot of doom and gloom for the coalition.

How many times did we hear that the causalities will be very high for the coalition? How many times did we hear about how the Republican Guard will not fold and that they are loyal? How many times did we hear quagmire? We had to stop operations for a few days because of a sand storm and the nay-sayers were out calling it the quagmire they predicted.

Only the people who wanted us to  take a beating believed all that crap.

Ace

I agree with ace that many people predicted that the Iraqis would put up more resistance, and they were wrong...

If we can\'t set up a govermant soon this war was completley pointless, right now we just have the religous groups all wanting us out, and all wanting control.

[SirMystiq]

While some of you might say that you never believed that this war was about WOMD but for a regime change......im not saying any names....tell that to Bush. They clearly stated that they emphacized(sp) the whole WoMD issue for this war,  so basically every person in the US believes that was the reason for this war.

Knowing Bush he going to probably change what Victory means to him now. Before it was "removing saddam hussain and eliminating the threat of weapons of mass destruction"......nw its probably "Removing Saddam Hussain even though his weapons were probably sold or destroyed before our people could find them......Syria has them...........we will destroy........we will win.........."


Funny how it went from "pretty damn sure" to "maybe i was wrong".

[Living-In-Clip]

I agree with Mystiq a hundred percent. When we went to war Bush was so sure of finding those WOMD and yet we came up with nothing. Now, he seems to be focusing his attention on Syria. And personally, that seems to be the Bush way about things. This Adminstration has constantly shifted its attention to one thing after another, without truly following through on any of it.

Did we ever get Osama Bin Laden, like promised? No.

Did we find WoMD? No.

Have we found Saddam? No.

So what does the Adminstration do? Shift attention over to Syria.

The war is less than two months old. Give it some time. You guys wanted to give the inspectors an insane amount of time and absolutely no time to the coalition forces. Funny how that works.

Thats a very hypocritical thing to say, we went to war BECAUSE you and others didn\'t want to extend weapons inspections...

[videoholic]

Originally posted by Tyrant
personally i dont care wether the war was about oil, liberation, womd\'s, terrorists or whatever, i\'m just glad saddam is gone.
i only wish that the iraqi\'s get their heads out of their asses and work to get their country back on track (the U.S govt. must help too).

But what do you know?  You only live over there.  I\'d rather listen to our other posters here who live in places like FL, TX, CA, etc..  



I was all for the war originally because of WOMD and Terrorist training and support.

Personally I don\'t care if they find an ounce of anthrax, etc.  I am happy for the regime change and without a doubt terrorist camps removed.  


I love the list of all the countries we have bombed.  Can you name any we shouldn\'t have dealt with?

We have been extending them for over 12 years.

[SirMystiq]

OK.....12 years huh. So instead of giving peace a chance. The US went to war and found nothing yet........the same exact results would of come up if the Inspectors have finished their job. Instead there wouln\'t be any deaths or people going nuts.

But I forgot it\'s about the regime change now.

HOW DANGEROUS WAS SADDAM HUSSAIN IF IT TURNS OUT HE DOESN\'T HAVE NUKES??

Wasn\'t that what Bush said made him dangerous?

HOW DANGEROUS CAN SADDAM HUSSAIN BE IF IT TURNS OUT THAT HE DOESN\'T HAVE ANY WOMD TO GIVE TO TERRORIST?

Wasn\'t that another bright point brought up by our beloved GWB?

There could be a million terrorist ties, yet not one of them could mean problems. Hussain was just being friends with the terrorist. How can he sell them WOMD he doesn\'t have? But im pretty sure he destroyed them or sold it to them right before the war broke out....

Originally posted by SirMystiq
OK.....12 years huh. So instead of giving peace a chance. The US went to war and found nothing yet........the same exact results would of come up if the Inspectors have finished their job. Instead there wouln\'t be any deaths or people going nuts.

But I forgot it\'s about the regime change now.

HOW DANGEROUS WAS SADDAM HUSSAIN IF IT TURNS OUT HE DOESN\'T HAVE NUKES??

Wasn\'t that what Bush said made him dangerous?

HOW DANGEROUS CAN SADDAM HUSSAIN BE IF IT TURNS OUT THAT HE DOESN\'T HAVE ANY WOMD TO GIVE TO TERRORIST?

Wasn\'t that another bright point brought up by our beloved GWB?

There could be a million terrorist ties, yet not one of them could mean problems. Hussain was just being friends with the terrorist. How can he sell them WOMD he doesn\'t have? But im pretty sure he destroyed them or sold it to them right before the war broke out....

Chill my man. Stop being so angry.

Anyway, I still believe weapons will be found and you and many others will have to move that little red line of justification once again.

In any any case the world is a better place now without Saddam and his henchmen. When they are captured or brought back in a box we can be even happier.

[videoholic]

Saddam killed hundreds of thousands of his own people.  That makes him pretty dangerous.

Saddam jailed anyone for anything he didn\'t like and torchered them for years.  That makes him pretty dangerous.

Saddam had Al Queida terrorist camps in his country that were manufacturing Risen.  That makes him pretty dangerous.

Saddam was paying terrorists to act as suicide bombers against the US.  That makes him pretty dangerous.

Saddam extorted billions of dollars of oil from the people or Iraq, while they suffered from a lack of medicine and food.  That makes him pretty dangerous.