No Pun Intended but our churches our going to hell!

Originally posted by videoholic
SO do you look at your poop before you flush?

????

huh?
you got some sick fetish?

I\'d call him Adan mate,but I don\'t need some god loving hippy telling me how to live my life.so I guess you could handle it?trust me after a while you\'ll either be suicidal or a priest!:p

Originally posted by FifaSeriesFan
I\'d call him Adan mate,but I don\'t need some god loving hippy telling me how to live my life.so I guess you could handle it?trust me after a while you\'ll either be suicidal or a priest!:p

Sure, typical religious / sectarious behaviour. (=brainwash)

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
^^

i don\'t want to get off the topic, but there is nothing wrong with believing in god. If theres no proof that he exists then that also means theres no proof he DOESNT exist. Considering that sources OTHER than the Bible proove that Jesus existed, AND that he performed incredible miricles, it just all makes sense.

1. I never stated there couldn\'t be a god, I merely stated that it is, at the moment, foolish to believe there is one, due to the lack of proof
2. give me a list of those, so called, sources, I dare you

Theres no evidence directly against it because theres no way to get evidence against it, since it doesn\'t exist and it\'s just an idea.

[CHIZZY]

I always look at my poop, and don\'t believe in god.

Originally posted by FifaSeriesFan
It\'s just churches are like cults...the way they come around scrounging for money in those envelopes and collection plates.

Every organization needs money to stay up and running.  Sports teams wouldn\'t exist without funding.  Video game developers would go bankrupt if their publisher didn\'t provide for them.  Even our own governments take money from us with taxes to keep everything in running order.  Why would churches be any different?  Orginizations like homeless shelters are always taking donations.  Does this make homeless shelters cults?

Originally posted by Politiepet
I don\'t get it: \'why do people believe in a god?\' when there\'s absolutely no proof

Likewise, why do people believe in evolution, or the big bang theory?  There isn\'t proof for those things either.  People choose to believe in what makes the most sense to them.  One belief isn\'t necessarily better, or even more correct than another.

Originally posted by IronFist

Likewise, why do people believe in evolution, or the big bang theory?  There isn\'t proof for those things either.  People choose to believe in what makes the most sense to them.  One belief isn\'t necessarily better, or even more correct than another.

you\'re kidding right? you must be.....

Originally posted by politiepet
you\'re kidding right? you must be.....

Kidding?  Why would you say that?  Are you saying that you have proof that the big bang really happened?  Are you saying you have proof that evolution occured?  I would tell you to go ahead and show me that proof, but I know you couldn\'t find any.  If there were proof of those things, religion vs science arguments would be non-existant.  Everyone would already know the truth.

The idea of the big bang and evolution is no more correct than the idea of there being a god.  The big bang and evolution are just theories, educated guesses, of where we came from.  Just like religion is no more than a way people made sense of the world around them in olden times (in a  non-believer\'s point of view, anyways).  Yes, we know more about the universe, science, and mathematics than the people did in Bible times, but that does not mean our conclusions are more correct.  We might be trying so hard to discover an alternative answer to who we are and where we came from, that we are looking over the obvious -- the thing that has been known to the world for centuries now -- that there is a god.  I\'m not saying that you have to believe in God, or that people who don\'t believe in god are just ignorant, or anything like that.  I\'m just saying that it is a huge fallacy on your part to think that your non-religious beliefs are so much more accurate than the beliefs of people who believe in god.

Originally posted by FifaSeriesFan
I believe in God and Aliens Adan...does that prove anything?

*Fifaseriesfan runs off ashamed and confesses his sins to the nearest tramp in exchange for a half drunken bottle of Jack Daniels

I don\'t go to church cause sundays are for hangover recoveries.

Speaking of Jack Daniels....*hides whiskey bottle*....anywho, I think its disgusting that the Anglican Church hasn\'t done anything about this yet.  Have they forgotten what the Bible says about homosexuality?  hrmph.  They need to get their act together.

Originally posted by IronFist

Kidding?  Why would you say that?  Are you saying that you have proof that the big bang really happened?  Are you saying you have proof that evolution occured?  I would tell you to go ahead and show me that proof, but I know you couldn\'t find any.  If there were proof of those things, religion vs science arguments would be non-existant.  Everyone would already know the truth.

The idea of the big bang and evolution is no more correct than the idea of there being a god.  The big bang and evolution are just theories, educated guesses, of where we came from.  Just like religion is no more than a way people made sense of the world around them in olden times (in a  non-believer\'s point of view, anyways).  Yes, we know more about the universe, science, and mathematics than the people did in Bible times, but that does not mean our conclusions are more correct.  We might be trying so hard to discover an alternative answer to who we are and where we came from, that we are looking over the obvious -- the thing that has been known to the world for centuries now -- that there is a god.  I\'m not saying that you have to believe in God, or that people who don\'t believe in god are just ignorant, or anything like that.  I\'m just saying that it is a huge fallacy on your part to think that your non-religious beliefs are so much more accurate than the beliefs of people who believe in god.

I never stated my opinion is the truth, however, you can\'t possibly deny that with the current knowledge we have among us, evolution is much more likely to have happened than the bible theorie. I always say: never exclude any possibility, but believe in what\'s most likely at the moment, and that\'s gotta be evolution.

the clue\'s to evolution being true are way more believable and based on facts.
Give me one reasonable fact that can proof the god theorie is true! please!

Deny evolution is, perhaps, one of the most stupid things you can say right now.

[Titan]

I really agree with adan on this one. I was catholic for 16 years until i decided to be atheist (well 15 if you count me being agnostic) and I didn\'t agree with anything the church was doing. People are throwing their lives away to something that isn\'t even proved to have existed except for those select \'few\' that god comes to them in a dream. Thats proof? I had a dream a couple nights ago when you said "shlong" (don\'t ask), the gates of hell opened. So does that mean when I say shlong i see hell? A dream is a dream not to be taken literally. If god appeared in a dream and said kill the president, would you do it? I wouldn\'t because its a stupid dream. I\'ve had dreams about hot chicks that want an orgy. Is that gonna happen? no.

If God existed, he had already fixed the situation of those kids that are starving all around the world, I\'m sure. But, he doesn\'t exist.

[Titan]

I asked my mom about that one time....i think. I asked someone and someone said that god likes to put challenges in front of humans. WTF would he do that? Does he enjoy watching humans suffer? It doesnt\' make sense. If god is so loving, he\'d stop suffering. Oh but the religious people would say \'oh, they don\'t believe in him or don\'t believe in him enough\'. Now if that were true, i\'d be living in poverty, half the people in this board would be in poverty or suffering. these things lead me to believe there is no god.