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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2003, 07:40:16 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/11/sprj.irq.wmdspeech/index.html

I wonder what else was a mistake on the president\'s speech?
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« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2003, 09:58:54 AM »
This is an anti Bush/anti American crusade that is getting way too much attention.  Notice I said anti American and not unAmerican for those who continue to rant over this technicality and are US citizens.  So what if the CIA was wrong in their intelligence regarding the supposed Iraqi attempt to acquire "yellow cake" in Africa?  Its not like they haven\'t been before.

The point is Saddam Hussein\'s regime was a threat to this country and would have been a bigger one in the future.  I have seen some discussion of N. Korea here, but not nearly as much as post Saddam Iraq.  I surprises me that we don\'t put our effort into discussing a more critical problem rather than debate the finer points of a war that is over.  

SirMisty, try reading what I post before replying.  Israel and Iran should have helped?  The Iran Iraq war happend in the 80\'s and Israel was attacked during the Gulf War.  If you knew even the slightest thing about the Middle East you would know Israel couldn\'t help without drawing other Arab countries into any conflict against Iraq.  Kuwait lent its support as a launching point for this past war.  

The US has the right to strike any threat as they see fit post 9/11.  This goes back to what was debated prior to the war.  Is it going to take a mushroom cloud over a US city or the the spread of some biochemical weapon to get some of you to realize that hindsight is 20/20?

The US government oppressors?  That is the prime example of an anti American attitude.  Our government is no where near perfect, but to label it as oppressive is wrong.  Maybe its the so called "Green" party members here... I dunno...  If some of you hate the policies of this country, can\'t find work, etc... just leave.

That being said, is there a point in which we US citizens will feel safe from terror or unstable 3rd world countries?  I wish I knew... but to put the blame for the unstable situations in the world on the shoulders of the President is myopic.  Why not blame the people who actually carry out these crimes against civilization.  Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden, the government of N. Korea?  It still leaves me stunned when I see Americans and EU citizens state that Bush is a bigger threat to our civilization than the previously mentioned group.
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« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2003, 10:26:41 AM »
I just want to know how Saddam was a threat when we can\'t find any weapons to threaten us.

Face it, this war was based on a lie that the President told us American\'s.

People cry about Clinton lying about Monica and a blowjob. Yet, when the President lie\'s to support his own war, it\'s A-OK.

And I\'ll say it once more. The only threat to America is George W. Bush! He is the only one who sent soliders over to get killed. Saddam didn\'t come over here and kill our soliders. Saddam didn\'t run UN inspectors out. Instead, he let them look around. Bush was the one who ignored inspectors and the UN. He is the one who led this crusade for a "smoking gun" and he is the one who is backtracking now that nothing has been found and things are leaking out about his lies.

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« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2003, 12:12:39 PM »
Gimme a break, you can\'t defeat terrosism by fighting wars, You can defeat terrosim by increasing security.  This war was just a bunch of bullcrap,  our current govermants a joke.
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« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2003, 01:31:13 PM »
The U.S. does have the right at anything that may be a threat. It doesn\'t give it the right though to lie about it in order to get support.

That\'s not the point Giga. You said that the US doesn\'t give a damn about anyone else, except it\'s own interest. I shouln\'t even say US b/c it\'s just Bush and his government. If that\'s true Giga, then instead of saying to the world it\'s trying to rid the WORLD from threats and terrorism. They should say they\'re trying to rid the WORLD of the threats and terrorist against the US. I don\'t hate the Policies of this country, I hate the policies that Bush has implemented. I hate the fact that he has shown his true face, yet people still support him. Why? Im not sure, it might have to do with the fact that since 9/11, being against Bush is Anti-american. Sure, we can blame Saddam, Laden, and the governent of N.K. We already blamed Saddam, none of the nukes that the world was hoping for were found. What happened to them? For all we know he could have sold them to some other terrorist group. Does Bush care about that? No, as long as Hussain is out of power. We all hate Laden, but where is he? Is HIS threat really over? Aren\'t people already bitching at NK for what they\'re saying? Bush, isn\'t doing anything about that. He decided to have peace and trust instead of facing the threat. People say that NK is just bluffing, there is no way in hell we can be sure.

Why not blame Bush? Sure, It\'s all good he decided to attack Afghanistan. But everything else going on in this country is because of him. If it isn\'t then he isn\'t doing his job. It\'s his job to keep this country straight. If it isn\'t, he is the boss, he gets the blame.
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« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2003, 01:43:36 PM »
This war was nothing more than to prove that we aren\'t going to take any bullshit post 9-11 and countries harboring known terrorists are going to get pounded.  The WMD was obviously something that they thought they could use to get in there and it worked.  

Thre were known terrorist camps in Iraq and we found them and destroyed them.  Well I should say we have found some.  WHo knows how many there are.

Countries will think long and hard about harboring known terrorist groups now.  And if you think that\'s not true then why did Syberia send the Hussein boys back into Iraq when they made it across the border?

Nevermind.   This thread is still useless.
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« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2003, 03:12:38 PM »
yet you keep comming back........
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« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2003, 05:55:35 PM »
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This war was nothing more than to prove that we aren\'t going to take any bullshit post 9-11 and countries harboring known terrorists are going to get pounded.  The WMD was obviously something that they thought they could use to get in there and it worked.  

Thre were known terrorist camps in Iraq and we found them and destroyed them.  Well I should say we have found some.  WHo knows how many there are.

Countries will think long and hard about harboring known terrorist groups now.  And if you think that\'s not true then why did Syberia send the Hussein boys back into Iraq when they made it across the border?

Nevermind.   This thread is still useless.


Maybe b/c they feared gettting bombed and destroyed just like Iraq?
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« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2003, 03:30:25 AM »
Exactly.
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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2003, 11:08:21 PM »
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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2003, 12:08:41 AM »
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..... what the hell are you doing




Attempting to swim up a waterfall methinks!!

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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2003, 04:28:30 AM »
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Attempting to swim up a waterfall methinks!!

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« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2003, 05:16:23 AM »
Oh and one more thing.

17 Standing ovations!!!

Do you wanna keep Mr Blair on your side of the pond, we don\'t want him any more.

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« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2003, 05:18:26 AM »
I wear a necklace now because I like to know when I\'m upside down.
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« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2003, 05:55:31 AM »
Hmmm, this is incredibly suspicious.

Suicide? Shot himself in the head eight times maybe.

 

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