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Serious thread: What do you think you\'ll die from?
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2003, 11:10:04 PM »
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Those "slow, painful deaths" came for a reason in God\'s plan. Did Christ not die a slow and painful death for you?
 
 Listen, I don\'t wanna turn this into a heated religious debate, you asked a question, I gave you my answer. I\'m sorry you disagree with it, or don\'t understand it.


 


I wasn\'t upset. I see nothing wrong with a healthy debate, as long as no one starts flaming. :) Besides - those threads are often the best threads in this forum.

I have to disagree though. If it\'s "God\'s Plan" for peope to die miserable deaths, than if there is a God - I have to say, I want nothing to do with him. Isn\'t \'God\' suppose to be like a father? A loving father? What loving father would want their child to die painfully?

My point? I don\'t think it\'s "part of God\'s plan". I don\'t think there is a plan. I think in the end, we all die. Some of us just have a better death than the others. And sayin\' someone\'s death is part of "God\'s plan" is just to try and ease the pain and pass the blame off on something / someone. Instead of facing reality and facing the fact - that there is no plan and sense in death, other than the fact it\'s natrual...Sadly, natrual.


Note: You\'ll note I am not arguing if there is a God or not. I don\'t know if there is and I am in no position to say there is or isn\'t. I just fail to see the logic in saying "it\'s God\'s plan" for people to die slow painful deaths.

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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2003, 11:13:05 PM »
Hah.. dude, you make it so much more complex then it really is. He has a plan for each and every one of us. He knows what we\'re gonna do, what we\'re gonna think, what we\'re gonna say. If the person dies a slow death, it was for a reason, his reason. Death isn\'t such a horrible thing if you know where exactly you\'re going after it.

The average person lives maybe 75 years, thats just a drop in the ocean in comparison to whats after that.

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Serious thread: What do you think you\'ll die from?
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2003, 11:22:31 PM »
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Hah.. dude, you make it so much more complex then it really is. He has a plan for each and every one of us. He knows what we\'re gonna do, what we\'re gonna think, what we\'re gonna say


If something knows what you are goin\' to say and do, than that means your life is planned out before you. You really have no indepence or self awareness.

That\'s almost like the theory that everything you do is already planned - due to the fact it is related to your childhood and way of being raised. Your train of thought and choices are already picked out in every given situation. How can that be comforting?

And are you saying that if you have a child and he dies from say , cancer at age 10 - it was part of God\'s plan and you can accept that? Or your mother? Could you watch your mother slowly die a painful death and easily say, it was part of "God\'s plan"? What reason could that be? For the family to suffer watching the given person die?

I fail to see how my logic is more complicated than yours..

Mine..

There is no plan. We all die. Some of us die painful deaths. The so called "plan" is simply a way for people to  deal with and pass the blame on..

Your\'s
There is a grand scheme and reason for everything. Slow painful death\'s are part of an un-noticed "plan" by a force we can\'t see.

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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2003, 11:23:53 PM »
What if his plan is for all of us to just die eventually?  That\'s a pretty sh*tty plan in my opinion.  Then again, maybe it\'s not.  Maybe his ultimate plan is for us all to play in a giant ball pit for all eternity.  What if, and this is just for the sake of a more hilarious argument, we have it all mixed up and doing good deeds is actually the way into Hell and doing bad deeds is the way into Heaven?  Boy, color my face shocked if we find out that his ultimate plan was just to fool mankind!
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2003, 11:32:15 PM »
Sometime\'s I love your weird sense of sarcasm..

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2003, 11:34:20 PM »
Some people would say it\'s more eccentric then it is weird.  ;)
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2003, 11:38:25 PM »
The difference between our plans is that mine has faith, and yours doesn\'t.

You were basically right on the money in my belief. You don\'t like it, because thats natural. You don\'t like the idea of having no control or no stand in what happens in your life. Thats the problem with mankind, they live along the premise of "it\'s all about me". But cuz you lack faith, which is basically believing in what you don\'t see, you\'re views and outlooks on life are gonna be different from mine. I\'ve come to reason that I have no problem with knowing that my life is in the hands of something higher than all.

Listen, I\'m not trying to preach and sound like a radical Christian, I\'m telling you what I believe.
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2003, 11:42:20 PM »
Faith grows old and tired as you experience more life.

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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2003, 11:45:37 PM »
Thats only because you never had faith to begin with.

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Serious thread: What do you think you\'ll die from?
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2003, 12:22:31 AM »
Hmm, don\'t know what I\'ll die from. Hopefully old age or suicide.

I have a fear though, that I\'ll go senile when I get old. My grandfather was deeply senile... it\'s just like the worst thing ever. Imagine a good mind destroyed and living in a shell of yourself, not being able to think, eat or shit properly.
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2003, 12:35:48 AM »
There\'s big chances to die from a cancer.
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2003, 12:52:42 AM »
Sometimes live is very depressing so if would probably be suicide.

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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2003, 01:01:46 AM »
Serious = Alcohol , House Hold accident or industrial accident.


What i want it to be = SEX.

i want to go out Doing it.
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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2003, 02:54:52 AM »
Ill die from a heart attack while watching a porno movie.

The awful truth :(
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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2003, 04:40:14 AM »
Samwise, why would you hope to die of suicide? I have had a few members in my family kill themselves and it is hell on the people that are left behind. So many unanswered questions, guilt, and sadness. I would never wish it upon anyway.

 

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