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Offline Paul
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Jak II: Renegade - first impressions
« on: October 14, 2003, 05:05:21 PM »
Did i beat everyone else to it? Hee-hee.

Just has about 1 hour+ of hands on with Jak II last night....here\'s the initial impression:
(1) Graphics - polygon counts are upped although i don\'t think it makes such a difference. However, the bad news is, frame rates is down. Whereas Jak 1 has most of the time keeps to 60fps. There is some strange "tearing" effect that occurs very frequently. (Tearing is the effect of the frame rates not sync to the vertical retrace rate )...i suppose NDog needs to squeeze every frame rates available and turns the Vsync off...Still, it\'s not a very noticeable lag, but just don\'t expect Jak 1 smooth. Texture isn\'t very detail or amazing but it makes up by being pretty varied and it\'s decent enough and saved from being bland.

(2) Gameplay - the reviews were right, it plays a bit like GTA wheares you have to keep going across the town to the person who gives you a mission and to ur destination point after you\'ve received the mission instructions. I think this is the greatest downpoint of the game. The City of haven seems to serve no purpose other than transition area to move from mission briefing=>target=>mission briefieng. Imagine it as one big Warp Room. The problem is, when u get a car to go from one place to another it\'s very easy to bump into other cars or kill civillians. Once you\'ve done that the soldiers will be after you. It was fun the first few mission, but I don\'t think I\'ll like it when I\'m going for mission number 20....

(3) Overall - overall, i\'m quite dissapointed by Jak II. I personally feels it should have stick to the same concept of the prequel....now it\'s seems like neither a platform game, an action game or GTA......

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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2003, 05:17:55 PM »
Boo. Stop youre breaking my heart. I had high hopes for this one. Guess ill just have to rent it myself.  I always did hate reviews other than my own.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2003, 05:20:38 PM »
ign said it was 60 fps...

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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2003, 05:23:18 PM »
Well it did managed 60fps MOST OF THE TIME...but there are many areas especially when you swing the camera, the tearing effect will come into place....you\'ll know it when you sees it.

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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2003, 06:07:02 PM »
This game is getting AWESOME reviews, I am definately picking it up later on during the week.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2003, 10:12:11 PM »
the tearing is very noticable, at least in the city. Everywhere else, you\'ll hardly find any and are met with a very constant 60 fps framerate. The tearing is also absent in indoor-levels.

Still, not sure if I love it or hate it.... I\'m enjoying it though, so that\'s a good sign. (by the way, weapons are a blast)! And no, you didn\'t beat me to the punch! I got the game yesterday at 4 o\'clock p.m. (14th). :D

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2003, 12:38:25 AM »
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the tearing is very noticable, at least in the city. Everywhere else, you\'ll hardly find any and are met with a very constant 60 fps framerate. The tearing is also absent in indoor-levels.

Still, not sure if I love it or hate it.... I\'m enjoying it though, so that\'s a good sign. (by the way, weapons are a blast)! And no, you didn\'t beat me to the punch! I got the game yesterday at 4 o\'clock p.m. (14th). :D


Oh yeah??? But i post first impressions here FIRST. Nyah! Nyah!!:laughing:

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2003, 12:59:10 AM »
Oh yeah???

Well I got the demo last month. Nyah Nyah!!:laughing:

Wait a moment................demo =

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2003, 09:09:37 AM »
i dont care about this little tearing issue... im buying this game asap!

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2003, 12:13:41 PM »
like Kurt i too have played the demo, still trying to decide to get this...

Or Ratchet & Clank 2 Going Commando/ Lock and loaded.

In round one I found that

Ratchet and Clank 1 was >>>>>>>>> than Jak 1
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2003, 12:20:32 PM »
i never played rc1..... but its abit unfair to judge tem on how there sequels where, esp as rc was oput after, there fore technology had moved on a bit, so it is more likely it would be better, if that makes sense
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2003, 07:22:30 PM »
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like Kurt i too have played the demo, still trying to decide to get this...

Or Ratchet & Clank 2 Going Commando/ Lock and loaded.

In round one I found that

Ratchet and Clank 1 was >>>>>>>>> than Jak 1


I love both Jak 1 and RC 1, they\'re equally fantastic in their own terms. But i had feeling I\'m going to like RC2 a lot more than Jak 2...

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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2003, 07:37:51 PM »
True, some tearing is there, because of the framerate drops, but that\'s because the game has to render basically 2x as many pixels as the previous game, as this time it uses the full front framebuffer, which allows for MUCH better image quality compared to J&D and also allows for progressive scan support.

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2003, 08:24:11 PM »
I also liked RC better than J&D but Jak II looks to be a good one.

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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2003, 11:08:16 PM »
Marconelly:

I\'d give up pro scan support in favour of a better framerate. :(

 

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