Religion thread type-R

Stay out of the age thread with your religion crap.  And by the way, religion is a sham.

Religion isn\'t a scam, organized religion is a scam.

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good correction, I made a slip up.  You get a cookie, and a sip of communion wine.

*gets drunk off communion wine and streaks in the church*

Yay

Erm, well you  beat me to it omen, I was gonna make a thread like this but decided not to.

Anyway; my idea of religion is simple.

God isnt real, Jesus isnt real, nothing like that is real. It was created as some story to make children behave, and people to follow order and classification. It was made so it seems like someone else is in a higher power, so we arent in total control of our lives.

I believe in science, the theory of evolution is actually considered almost a law now a days. If you think about it; do you think some guy is sitting in a toga in the clouds, zapping people, and creating lifeforms?

I mean, honestly; how can some guy seperate a body of water? Walk across water? Come back to life? All the things in the bible have never happened before. If "god" is so real, why doesnt he prove it? He has the power you say, why doesnt he enforce; Jesus said that God was real, they didnt believe him and were punished. Well why doesnt he do the same? And dont say some bullshit like "He doesnt want to\'\'.

You think that with the complexity of lifeforms on earth that some guy just made it in a poof?

What about adam and eve. if their were 2 people on the earth, every single one of us would have so many unnatural deformities from inbreeding it wouldnt be funny. When siblings produce children again and again, they become deformed.

And for all I care, you can think less or more of what I think. I just think about the truth. I dont care if you believe in God, because thats what its meant for; to be oblivious to the truth, but dont shove it down my throat.

Amen.

you gotta be kidding..  Who\'s shoving what down who\'s throat?

teeheeheheheheheheheheheheheeeeeeeeeeeee

ps- I\'m a Christian and I\'ve been told so many times on this forum my God doesn\'t exist but you don\'t see me retaliating making a 4 paragraph post about it.  Just keep your religious/anti-religious thoughts to yourself plz, we all really couldn\'t care less.

Generally, people that dont belive in god THINK they are smarter than people that do.

Dont know whether you belive this or not. Just something ive read.

Originally posted by Spudz


I believe in science, the theory of evolution is actually considered almost a law now a days. If you think about it; do you think some guy is sitting in a toga in the clouds, zapping people, and creating lifeforms?

I mean, honestly; how can some guy seperate a body of water? Walk across water? Come back to life? All the things in the bible have never happened before. If "god" is so real, why doesnt he prove it? He has the power you say, why doesnt he enforce; Jesus said that God was real, they didnt believe him and were punished. Well why doesnt he do the same? And dont say some bullshit like "He doesnt want to\'\'.

You think that with the complexity of lifeforms on earth that some guy just made it in a poof?

What about adam and eve. if their were 2 people on the earth, every single one of us would have so many unnatural deformities from inbreeding it wouldnt be funny. When siblings produce children again and again, they become deformed.

 

ok

Now

God is not in a cloud zapping people,  if you knew a mustard seed about what God is doing now you wouldnt say that.  Please,  turn off the cartoons

Seperation of a body of water?  Just like what an angel said "Is anything really impossible for God?"  If you believe he created the Universe,  and is responsible for the "dark energy" scientists are now finding out about, splitting a puny river is nothing.

Who said God made all life forms in a poof?  I never read that in the bible

Scientists say humans came from a couple in Africa.  They say they found the oldest bones there,  dont you believe them?

Why doesnt God show he is real?  Well until some 130 years ago pretty much everyone believed in God.  There is no reason for God to reveal himself, yet.  He doesnt interfere unless somebody gets in the way of his will.  Soon enough, though,  you will have to know that there is a God.  Jesus came to earth and fed 3,000 people with a couple of fish and bread.  Yet the same people who ate from him said later "What are you doing as a sign that we know you are the messiah?"  If an angel revealed himself to people that wouldnt change everybody.  It didnt change the priests who killed Jesus.  A guard saw an angel remove Jesus\' tomb stone,  told the priests and they told him to tell no one.  Look God gave us the bible.  That is all we need right now.   If you read the bible and tried to live by the way it tells you to you would know that there is a God.  Just look at all the lives the bible has changed.

"God is a cavaliers fan"


God I love that commercial.

Sadly,  God has been reduced to "the man upstairs"

Truly sad...and after pulling away from God so much people actually wonder why there is so much suffering in the world...

Me personally am not sure exactly what i belive in. I would love to belive there is a god but there are certain things that sway me. Anyway, i do know that scientists have said that it is very probable that human beginings did start in Africa. I do not remmember them stating they found a couple to be the oldest. Not only that but there may be more in Africa that belong to the same time period so it is hard to belive that the lives of THE two oldest bone structures were intertwined.

One thing: knowing that the bible is very old it is very hard to deny that such writing could have been written so flawlessly. Not saying that it is the most profound example of writing but it is still very sophisticated IF it was written so long ago and NOT changed. The chances of sombody of that day writing something of the bibles caliber is not that high suggesting that either it is true or that it has been changed.

Originally posted by Lord Nicon
One thing: knowing that the bible is very old it is very hard to deny that such writing could have been written so flawlessly. Not saying that it is the most profound example of writing but it is still very sophisticated IF it was written so long ago and NOT changed. The chances of sombody of that day writing something of the bibles caliber is not that high suggesting that either it is true or that it has been changed.

the dead sea scrolls had isaiah and there wasnt much a difference between the original and the king james version except for some grammer changers,  so skeptism that the bible has changed can be induced but its not complete

Man I didn\'t wanna get indepth, but the ol\' intuition is gnawin\' at me....

Originally posted by Spudz


God isnt real, Jesus isnt real, nothing like that is real. It was created as some story to make children behave, and people to follow order and classification. It was made so it seems like someone else is in a higher power, so we arent in total control of our lives.

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There\'s plenty of historical evidence (documentions, artifacts, etc.) which proove Jesus DID exist. If you think about it Jesus wasn\'t here that long ago, 2000 years, it\'s wasn\'t exactly the stone age. There\'s plenty of paintings and murals buddy, I don\'t know where you have been, maybe information doesn\'t reach that far up North?

Originally posted by Spudz


I believe in science, the theory of evolution is actually considered almost a law now a days. If you think about it; do you think some guy is sitting in a toga in the clouds, zapping people, and creating lifeforms?

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A law only according to those who believe in it. And if that is you\'re depiction of God, then you know a lot less than I originally had thought. alliswell hit it on the head, "turn off the cartoons."

Originally posted by Spudz


I mean, honestly; how can some guy seperate a body of water? Walk across water? Come back to life? All the things in the bible have never happened before. If "god" is so real, why doesnt he prove it? He has the power you say, why doesnt he enforce; Jesus said that God was real, they didnt believe him and were punished. Well why doesnt he do the same? And dont say some bullshit like "He doesnt want to\'\'.

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Jesus, son of God, could do anything God wanted him to do. If you have a part of God with you, why wouldn\'t you be able to part water, heal the sick, and be resurrected? God is a supreme being, he can do whatever he wants, it\'s not a difficult concept. Oh and why should he have to prove to a faithless world that he exists? That defeats the whole purpose of faith buddy. It\'s like, "Hey, look at me, I\'m God! See I\'m here, so if you didn\'t believe before, now you should!". He gives us the choice to reject or accept him. Seriously, it\'s so simple.

Originally posted by Spudz


You think that with the complexity of lifeforms on earth that some guy just made it in a poof?

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He\'s God! What are you so confused about?!?! He has the ability to do anything.. Oh and it wasn\'t one poof, it was seven days. And the complexity is from your perspective, not God\'s.

Originally posted by Spudz


What about adam and eve. if their were 2 people on the earth, every single one of us would have so many unnatural deformities from inbreeding it wouldnt be funny. When siblings produce children again and again, they become deformed.

You\'ve got to be kidding me. Are you serious? After even a short period of time the bloodlines stretch out so far that it\'s hardly inbreeding anymore. It\'s a giant pyramid scheme in which with each generation is gets further and further apart... Don\'t forget when God flooded the world and basically started on a clean slate (with the exception of Noah).

Originally posted by Spudz


And for all I care, you can think less or more of what I think. I just think about the truth. I dont care if you believe in God, because thats what its meant for; to be oblivious to the truth, but dont shove it down my throat.

Amen.

You wouldn\'t know truth if it slapped you in your face. Exactly tell me how your beliefs are more of a "truth" than mine?

Point is, you can\'t. As I can\'t disprove yours. I have my faith, and that\'s all I need.


Amen.

He doesnt interfere unless somebody gets in the way of his will.

If this is true then what sort of interferance does there need to be? A very large group of human beings are doubting religion and more and more youths are growing in a society where it is almost cool not to believe in god. That is quite the act but if there is a god i guess its not that detrimental to the rest of mankind.

Its just hard for me to belive that we just perish, mind and all when we die. That is if science is true and there is no meaning of life and that life was just created on accident. But then there is always the question of where did the big bang come from and where did god come from.

Sometimes i think it is almost rational to belive that we are apart of something bigger. Just a partical in a larger body. It goes the opposite way as well. We can magnify something so much but has it been discovered yet that there is nothing beyond what we have discovered? No body knows.

Interesting thus far. At least its not obnoxious... yet