Author Topic: Take a Look in the Mirror... (Read 3192 times)

« **Reply #60 on:** November 27, 2003, 10:14:10 PM »

Sadly spudz, LIC has been this way, even before your time, so i don\'t expect him to change for anyone.

:rolleyes:

btw, APC has far better music then korn does nowadays, evanesance also

« **Reply #61 on:** November 27, 2003, 10:51:54 PM »

APC is on a whole different level.

And evanesance- :rolleyes:

Living-In-Clip · « **Reply #62 on:** November 27, 2003, 11:15:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Spudz
LIC is just trying to get attention.

He likes the blame it on "teen-angst" and "stupid" buyers.

(He wants us all to conform to the unconformed)

LIC- Dont say he cant sing. He sings right there, and your just ****ing bold and ignorant for saying he cant sing. He has a decent voice.

So you can play the piano? Cool- you have something to do besides masturbation, and videogames. :rolleyes: Get a life, and stop being so critical.

Attention? I don\'t think so. You forget, I don\'t care what anyone says or thinks. That\'s a privledge I have gained from being here so long.

Jon Davis does not sing and he has no vocal range. He does not have a decent voice. The band has nothing, except the fact that they cater to young teens and that is something you cannot argue. The band has came out and said that one thing they aim for is to make something parents hate. That is a simple statement, saying they want something that makes something for the younger audience who still lives at home. The teenagers. The angst filled teenagers. If you was not one of them, you would be able to see it.

Also Spudz, you make comments about masturbation, videogames and that being all I do. You\'re wrong - as you don\'t know me. You assume that is all I do and that is fine. I and the rest of the board is use to you assuming and trying to put it off as fact. As for being critical, it\'s something I enjoy. You can take things at face value and enjoy the simple stupid things all you want, that\'s fine. However, please do not try and push the stupid simple things off as actual talent or anything else of any significance.

I\'m waiting for one of you to inform me that the mumbling and making up sounds in the middle of a song is also "talent".
:rolleyes:

Jumpman · « **Reply #63 on:** November 27, 2003, 11:18:44 PM »

He\'s as talented as...

Nm.

« **Reply #64 on:** November 27, 2003, 11:56:41 PM »

LIC one thing you keep ignoring;

Can you do better?

(Your answer here)

Then dont rat on his ass, or mine.

Its just bold to say they arent talented. Do you even know what talent is? Talent doesnt mean adapt and perfect, it means to have the skill to do something good.

Living-In-Clip · « **Reply #65 on:** November 28, 2003, 04:04:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Spudz
LIC one thing you keep ignoring;

Can you do better?

(Your answer here)

Then dont rat on his ass, or mine.

Its just bold to say they arent talented. Do you even know what talent is? Talent doesnt mean adapt and perfect, it means to have the skill to do something good.

Yet they do nothing good. Your argument is that they sell music , therefor they are doing something good. They aren\'t. Their marketing is doing something good. You also argue that there is talent in the band and there isn\'t.
Spudz, buddy, I know you are not the brighest, but it is a simple concept to grasp.

« **Reply #66 on:** November 28, 2003, 12:01:13 PM »

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Your argument is that they sell music , therefor they are doing something good.

Usually, selling millions of records, comes hand in hand with a talented artist. Its not my argument, its a point.

LIC- you have yet to answer my quetsion;
Can you do better?

Honestly, your the boldest person here. Learn to accept things, weither you like it or not.

« **Reply #67 on:** November 28, 2003, 05:24:07 PM »

LIC it sounds like your saying they have no talent because you don\'t like them.I think you\'ll find they connected to more than some depressed teens and stupid people.(I think you just called me stupid :moon: ) I myself can\'t stand Bob Dylan but I realise for him to have connected with as many people as he did he must have musical talent,can you understand that?If it was as easy as marketing every band would be able to make it and let me tell you only the minority do make it.

« **Reply #68 on:** November 28, 2003, 05:42:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The band has came out and said that one thing they aim for is to make something parents hate. That is a simple statement, saying they want something that makes something for the younger audience who still lives at home.

That statement to me says they are aiming for younger generation (15-30) and it\'s not a cd you sit and listen to with your parents.LIC you would be in their age aim,What Metal do your olds listen to? They would be doing themselves out of sales by only aiming for a 3 year age group.

Living-In-Clip · « **Reply #69 on:** November 29, 2003, 08:03:53 AM »

Alright - we\'ll go over this once more and I\'ll leave out any insults this time, due to the fact I\'m \'bout to start my vacation and in a rather happy mood.

I personally think that anyone who listens to KoRn and considers it good music is ignorant. I feel that KoRn is talentless and only caters to the young, depressed teens who have a lot of angst due to hormones .

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Usually, selling millions of records, comes hand in hand with a talented artist. Its not my argument, its a point.

Spudz\'s comment about selling millions of records mean the band is talented is wrong. Was the Spice Girls talented? No. It\'s the same way with movie\'s, just because a movie makes a lot of money, does not mean the movie is good and has any actual point or reason for existing. I point towards \'Armageddon\' and \'Titantic\', both was huge blockbusters, but by all accounts was extremely terrible films. You cannot say sales mean talent. That is your argument. If that is the case, we would not have any undiscovered bands and the music industry would be in tip-top shape.

The argument or "point" as you call it, is wrong. It\'s that simple. Talent does not equal sales. Sales does not equal talent. As much as I would like that to be true, it simply is not true and if you believe it is, you\'re not only naive, but you are grasping for straws.

Marketing goes a long way. KoRn had a gimmick. It was rap-rock, loud rap-rock, it had a singer who looked cool and played the bagpipes. It had teen angst lyrics. The marketing was great and it done a great job. The same way that \'The New Kids on the Block had a gimmick. A gimmick and marketing does not mean there is talent.

I suppose you want to tell me Limp Bizkit has talent (though I would give you Wes is talented - thus he left the band) ? Or maybe Spice Girls?

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If it was as easy as marketing every band would be able to make it and let me tell you only the minority do make it.

For succesful marketing, you also need a gimmick. A lot of bands lack a gimmick. Modest Mouse? Lacks a gimmick, great band though. KoRn had the gimmick and it has been marketed. It\'s life span is also short , thus one reason for less and less album sells. Only the diehard fans will continue to buy and I say within another five years, almost no one will care about the band.

« **Reply #70 on:** November 29, 2003, 01:56:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Modest Mouse? Lacks a gimmick, great band though.

I\'m listening to modest mouse right now

*gives LIC a hug for liking good music*

« **Reply #71 on:** November 29, 2003, 03:51:50 PM »

I think there sales have gone down cause so did there song quality.I hear your point about a gimmick and to a certain extent it\'s true,however if it comes down to gimmick or talent and gimmick who do you think is gonna get the record deal?(Spice Girls got big sales cause they put out for record producers and bought the cd\'s themselves)

So in closing :You THINK Korn sucks

That\'s your opinion and not fact.

CHIZZY · « **Reply #72 on:** November 29, 2003, 06:53:15 PM »

nope.. that\'s pretty much fact,

-nerds.

(goes and listens to Black Sabbath and My Bloody Valentine...at the same time.)

« **Reply #73 on:** November 29, 2003, 06:57:55 PM »

Right now Im too lazy to really put in a long post but here LIC;

Where did you get the Rap-Rock idea?

They have like what; 5 rap songs? Everything else is Nu-Metal.

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Usually, selling millions of records, comes hand in hand with a talented artist. Its not my argument, its a point.

Would you like some examples? Usually doesnt mean always, and you must get that through your head.

LIC- Just a few words for you, and you only; Quit being a critical bitch, and quit blaming everything on "teen angst". Ive also noticed you like NIN, well- your probably the most hypicritical peice of shit ever than. NIN is one of the most Teen Angst filled bands in the world.

Honestly- Your worse than mm. Both of you should quit your bitchin\', and quit this "ANTI-MAINSTREAM" bullshit.

Living-In-Clip · « **Reply #74 on:** November 30, 2003, 03:34:58 PM »

Early NIN is great. New NIN isnt .

Trent is talented. Trent makes great musical pieces and the highlight of any NIN song is the instrumentals. NIN isnt even really a band. It\'s one guy, who gets a live band around him.

I\'m done arguing with you. You\'re an idiot. It\'s impossible to argue with idiots.
End of story.
Reply if you like, but it\'s pointless.

Hello

Author Topic: Take a Look in the Mirror... (Read 3192 times)