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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2004, 08:06:09 PM »
"Humans > Animals"

Superiority issues anyone?
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2004, 08:29:32 PM »
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Humans > Animals.

Let me dish out another perspective; a bull can either live its miserable life in some damp stable, and then butchered and fed to fat Americans as Happy Meals... or it can be bred to be a strong and fierce beast and die in glory!


do people actually eat bull meat? i know we eat cows..female bull if i may add but i didn\'t think people ate bull meat..if they do i\'ve never heard of of it..but i have heard of something called buffalo something..i think it was actually buffalo balls or something to that degree that people actually ate.

as far as the sport of bullfighting i don\'t see the excitement of poking an animal to death then glorify over it like you\'re the man. people seem to think the animals overpopulate..nope people are the ones that move into they\'re territory..(buliding condos, houses etc) and then wonder why you have lions tigers & bears "oh my" in your backyard..theses animals have no where else to go.
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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2004, 09:45:56 PM »
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Humans > Animals.

Let me dish out another perspective; a bull can either live its miserable life in some damp stable, and then butchered and fed to fat Americans as Happy Meals... or it can be bred to be a strong and fierce beast and die in glory!


I wouldnt want to start talking about cognitive science.

But anyways.What do you think makes humans superior enough to have the right to do whatever they want with other creatures\' lives? :rolleyes:

And animals dont care about glory.They want to live.They want to survive.And I dont think an animal wouold have loved teh aspect of becoming "a firce beast" and die a slowly and painfully
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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2004, 09:46:57 PM »
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And animals dont care about glory.They want to live.


Unlike burn victims.  :)

EDIT:  By the way Unicron,  that\'s pretty GHEY when you edit your post to change the meaning.  LEAVE IT AS IS.
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« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2004, 09:49:28 PM »
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Unlike burn victims.  :)


:laughing: right on target

Ok.Lets see.Would you agree if they offered euthanasia to a suffering animal?

edit: My English arent very good.Thats why I edit.
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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2004, 10:36:12 PM »
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do people actually eat bull meat? i know we eat cows..female bull if i may add but i didn\'t think people ate bull meat..if they do i\'ve never heard of of it..but i have heard of something called buffalo something..i think it was actually buffalo balls or something to that degree that people actually ate.

as far as the sport of bullfighting i don\'t see the excitement of poking an animal to death then glorify over it like you\'re the man.


* Yes, the bull\'s carcass is not wasted. You can eat bull meat. And if the bull did a good job, they\'ll cut off his head and it will go in a museum. I\'ve seen these museum\'s, very cool.

*Believe me, it is a thrilling experience. It\'s not just "poking" a bull... There is music, rhythm, precision, and art. Keep in mind that there are other shows where bulls do not die.... I remember they had this horse who was so awesome, it came out, and would actually taunt the bull and juke him out like a football player and run around, very neat.

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"Humans > Animals"

Superiority issues anyone?


We\'re greater than animals. I will gladly argue with anybody who thinks animals should have equal or even greater rights than humans. That\'s just absurd.

 
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But anyways.What do you think makes humans superior enough to have the right to do whatever they want with other creatures\' lives? :rolleyes:
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Because we\'re smarter than they are and we have always had dominion over them since our existence. It is from the nature of our being and because of my religious stance (and lets not head down there).

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And animals dont care about glory.They want to live.They want to survive.And I dont think an animal wouold have loved teh aspect of becoming "a firce beast" and die a slowly and painfully [/B]


Animals don\'t know what is best for them; believe me if they knew what glory was, it wouldn\'t be ending up in a paper bag next to a plastic wind-up toy.

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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2004, 10:38:10 PM »
I have never felt more conservative in my life than after reading this thread.

Stop being such pansies and go shoot something.

Hippies.
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« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2004, 10:46:23 PM »
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Because we\'re smarter than they are and we have always had dominion over them since our existence. It is from the nature of our being and because of my religious stance (and lets not head down there).


Smarter?
You mean just "the ability ro process more complicated information"?
That doesnt make you any different than an animal.
As for religion that comes to contradiction to your beliefs if you are an Orthodox or a Catholic.

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Animals don\'t know what is best for them; believe me if they knew what glory was, it wouldn\'t be ending up in a paper bag next to a plastic wind-up toy. [/B]


What should an animal do with glory?Glory is just a dellusion to satisfy our egos

Do you know whats best for an animal?Is torturing it or killing it without needing to the best thing for an animal?
We humans treat to animals according to what\'s "best" for us like for our materialistic needs and complexes.
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« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2004, 10:58:32 PM »
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Smarter?
You mean just "the ability ro process more complicated information"?
That doesnt make you any different than an animal.
As for religion that comes to contradiction to your beliefs if you are an Orthodox or a Catholic.
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It\'s survival of the fittest, we need animals, animals need us. Unfortunately for them, because we are more intelligent, we get the upper hand in that deal. And it is by no way a contradiction if I am a Catholic (which I am not, I\'m Christian, although the differences are very small). In the Bible we\'ve always had clear dominion over animals, and they are like instruments to us. If you\'re referring to the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" it is only if an animal is killed in vain.

 
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What should an animal do with glory?Glory is just a dellusion to satisfy our egos

Do you know whats best for an animal?Is torturing it or killing it without needing to the best thing for an animal?
We humans treat to animals according to what\'s "best" for us like for our materialistic needs and complexes.


Exactly, thats what animals are here for, our materialistic needs. That could be entertainment, food, or companionship. Thats how the world turns.

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« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2004, 11:01:23 PM »
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Smarter?
You mean just "the ability ro(sic) process more complicated information"?
That doesnt make you any different than an animal.
ummmm.....I think that is EXACTLY what makes us different than an animal.

If you think the equivalent of only knowing left/right is the same as knowing 360 degrees of motion in 180 degrees of 3-dimensional movement; then yes, you are no smarter than a cow.
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« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2004, 11:02:54 PM »
These threads always make me want to eat a fat-juicy steak.

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« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2004, 11:04:29 PM »
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If you\'re referring to the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" it is only if an animal is killed in vain.
WTF?! Are you reading the Gospel according to PETA?
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« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2004, 11:12:25 PM »
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ummmm.....I think that is EXACTLY what makes us different than an animal.

If you think the equivalent of only knowing left/right is the same as knowing 360 degrees of motion in 180 degrees of 3-dimensional movement; then yes, you are no smarter than a cow.


Well then.If the chimp was the smartest being on the planet all other less intelligent beings would have been considered animals except from the chimp.

What you just described is a more intelligent animal.Yeap thats us

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« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2004, 11:24:02 PM »
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It\'s survival of the fittest, we need animals, animals need us. Unfortunately for them, because we are more intelligent, we get the upper hand in that deal. And it is by no way a contradiction if I am a Catholic (which I am not, I\'m Christian, although the differences are very small). In the Bible we\'ve always had clear dominion over animals, and they are like instruments to us. If you\'re referring to the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" it is only if an animal is killed in vain.


We already have the upper hand with animals that are being used to feed us.Torturing and killing more than necessary shows only our weakness to want MORE and MORE and MORE.We act as an intelligent animal.
Dominion over animals on the bible it may be.But that time the conenction between human and animal was differemt.Humanity offered to animals, animals offered to humans.Both survived with the help of the other.It was mutual gain.Now man acts as an arogant being with materialistic weaknesses.Man thanked God for what was offered to him and showed respect to hes creations.Now you just want more than necessary.You dont find enough what is offered to you and there is no respect to other existences.
 

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Exactly, thats what animals are here for, our materialistic needs. That could be entertainment, food, or companionship. Thats how the world turns.


I didnt try to convince you not to eat animals.

And materialistic need is a human weakness if the need goes beyond the necessary in life.


And thats where religion comes to contradiction with your beliefs.
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« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2004, 11:25:27 PM »
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Well then.If the chimp was the smartest being on the planet all other less intelligent beings would have been considered animals except from the chimp.

What you just described is a more intelligent animal.Yeap thats us

.................................how do I respond to that?

I think you might want to erase that post, think about what you are trying to say and repost it in an hour or ten. If need be confer with your pet goldfish to get a fair and unbiased expert opinion.
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