GeForce 6800 Ultra surprises!

Crikey! nVidia finallly raises the bar in their favor. Look at those benchmarks of the 6800 trouncing the 9800xt

It\'s about time Nvidia got there ass back in shape, oh and you can thank ATI for that. Now while the 6800U is all fine and dandy let\'s remember 2 things.




1) this is nothing more than a paper launch, keeping in mind we are comparing a 2 year old Generation chip (9800XT) to a brand new Nvidia one.

2) Intel and likewise Nvidia are known to do what are called "paper launches" they announce all about there new product, show some pretty graphs etc, but it takes a month or usually more for it to show up.

ATI like AMD don\'t do paper launches, they announce it, then its soon out (few weeks tops)

NDA liftis supposed be the 26th and the 4th retail availability. End of may for the XT.


Another issue I would like to discuss, since nothing has been confirmed(NDA is still pending) the X800 pro it ATI\'s upper mid level card, while the X800XT is there cream dela crop-which is meant to go head to head with the 6800U,

Gforce 6800 Vs X800 Pro

Gforce 6800U Vs X800 XT

the X800XT is going to have somewhere in the range between 520-590mhz, due to the Low-K allowing for higher clock frequency.

As for the GDDR3 ram from Micron(insiders say that Micron has had much better yeilds than "Samsung+Nvidia", apparently it will be clocked somewhere in the range of 580-600MHZ,

Anyhow we will have to wait see "what is what: until then it\'s all speculation.

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and they\'ll be to expensive for most people to buy.. I\'ll just get a 9800 card.

and they\'ll be to expensive for most people to buy.. I\'ll just get a 9800 card

The nvidia will probably be the most expensive, due to it\'s massive Power requirements. Alot of people do not have 450W+up PSU. So joe Blow goes to purchase his 6800U and then relizes he\'s got to buy a new PSU on top of that, "ouch"

Side note: Souly better get your 9800 Pro soon becuase they are going to run out of stock fast, my friend, well at least here in US/CANADA.  Production has stopped for both 9800 and XT

1st of all, joe blow is NOT going to drop 500$ on a top of the line video card

its for ENTHUSIASTS

its for ENTHUSIASTS

Agreed, but mm enthusiasts are also the same people whom have 3 cd drive bays, 4 HDD etc... and considering the NV40 requires 2 separate--Unused molex contectors, you get the point.

Personally The NV40\'s Power requirements are simply not a problem for my PC, considering the 657 watt PSu I have, but alot of people on the NV forums are bitching about having to buy a new PSU.


Also mm keep in mind most people still think  Antec, Enermax, Vantec are good psu, LOL
"PC POWER and COOLING"

if a computer user has 3 optical drives and 4 hdd\'s, he is a fool for not already having a 500w power supply

better yet, they are a fool for having all that shit

"LOL:rolleyes:

excuses, excuses, I bet you would just love to bend over for Intel and Nvidia.

Hey mm while you are at it, might as well get there logo tattooed on your ass, LOL!!!

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You\'re a complete idiot. You argue about the power supply unit and then Joe Blow, MM knocked that arguement down, so you go on some half-ass rant.

You my friend, are one of the typical forum trolls who read something, then try to rehash it and repeat it , without actually having a single true thought in your head.

The card will be out in around 40 days. It\'s not a paper launch, manufactors are already making boards as you can tell by the pictures provided.. ATI still needs to show what they have. Get a grip.

/agree

You\'re a complete idiot. You argue about the power supply unit and then Joe Blow, MM knocked that argument down,

What are you smoking? Let’s take a closer look at this.

#1) I suggest you take some time to read around NVIDIA forums, you "know" the people whom this card is targeted towards. You will notice that many of them are worried about weather or not they have sufficient power to run the card. These are after all the enthusiasts-remeber Nvidia is recommending 480W

The card will be out in around 40 days. It\'s not a paper launch

You obviously are a console gamer, as it\'s clear that you do not have any understanding of the computer world. Oh boy here we go

#1 you just stated the card will be available in 40 days(which by the way there is no confirmed date of release), therefore since the NV40 will not be available for well over a month, what you see here is called a paper launch. If you actually followed the PC gpu world you would see NVIDIA is notorious for there paper launches "FX LINE" ring a bell.

Now ATI on the other hand is known to first manufacture there cards, then do an official release. Makes allot more sense, that is the reason why ATI has not lifted the NDA\'s yet, they want to have the cards within a week to retailers after official launch. NVIDIA of course had decided to paper launch there card

manufactures are already making boards as you can tell by the pictures provided.

Those boards genius all of them were manufactured in the USA, using A1 silicon why do you think that is. Sigh...

You\'re a complete idiot

oh I see you took a look at yourself in the mirror, seems you are the one whom needs to get his facts straight, NEXT time "Living in Clip before you come in and decided to attack someone please make sure you have a leg to stand on.

MM knocked that argument down

How so, this was his response " a computer user has 3 optical drives and 4 hdd\'s, he is a fool for not already having a 500w power supply"

I disagree let\'s dive into this for a moment. the average PSU in the enthusasits PC is usally a 450W PSU. Now Antec, Enermax, Vantec etc..rate there PSU incorreclty(they are rated at 24c for that power, when the typical temp for a psu is 42c, also the maximum power rating of an ATX spec-compliant PSU, in watts, has nothing to do with whether the current it delivers to its various rails will be stable or not. Remember the NV40 requires 2 molex connectors-unused.(meaning they can not be attached to anything else, other wise you have to much a fluctuation in power) Enthusasts are the people with multiple HDD, cd drives, lights fans etc... it\'s important how stable a PSU is at delivering current on each of the 2 rails that connect to the NV40, this  can be a big problem for a good number of people whom can not meet the requirment. So mm, certainly he did not blow away or knock down my argument, because there is validation towards my argument. As for my comment towards him about Intel and NVIDIA he knows exactly what I WAS DRIVING AT.

One more thing, NV40\'s Power requirement is not very friendly to OEM\'s whom see the PQ being more of a risk take.

/agree

Of course you do mm, Nvidia and intel are always perfect no matter what screrw up\'s they make:eyemouth: :eyemouth: :eyemouth:

Ryu wasn\'t arguing with you bud.

It\'s ok, I\'m just on his mind because I got up in his face about him misspelling "valve" a few times in the thread LiC locked.  It\'s alright though, made me laugh quite a bit.  

I\'m just waiting for him to edit it

yeah, nvidia256 is great for a laugh

he\'s an "open mouth, insert foot" kinda guy