God Damn thread closing hippies

Originally posted by Ryu
But the fact still remains that the contents of marijuana, over a long period of time, just like cigars, cigarettes and alcohol, can perpetually mess you up and cause death no matter how filtered they are.

That is entirely untrue. There have been NUMEROUS studies by the American Medical Association, Harvard University, and Stanford to name a few that have said the exact opposite. The amount of marijuana needed to cause bodily harm is SO great that its nearly impossible to reach.

The only (bodily)harm from marijuana is that people tend to smoke unfiltered joints/blunts/etc. so they are at risk for the hazards of unfiltered smoke; but when you take into account filtering devices like bongs, or other marijuana uses like teas, food, drinks, etc. that risk is entirely negated.

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A google search comes up with sites saying otherwise.

My God! Will someone delete this freaking thread!! Why does everybody have to use the lords name in vain.

I would have to agree.

I love [glow=green]marijuana[/glow].

I love people who dont smoke [glow=green]marijuana[/glow].

I love the idea that we should not give a ****, and just live our lifes accepting people are different. [glow=green]marijuana[/glow].

deadpool he\'s your lord, I don\'t believe in fictional characters, thus I have no problem using it.  Thus, you should refrain from using it, but morally and legally can\'t stop others from doing so.

yeah!

lest not you judge others...and all that bullshit

Id have to say my brightest idea yet;

Start a Marijuana picture thread...

Hmmm... Botony picture thread maybe?

Originally posted by theomen
deadpool he\'s your lord, I don\'t believe in fictional characters, thus I have no problem using it.  Thus, you should refrain from using it, but morally and legally can\'t stop others from doing so.

Why use it in the first place? What does it mean to you? Why not use the f word or some other obsinity?I dont get you people.

Because I can\'t type f*ck it gets edited.  God damn is an effective phrase, and doesn\'t get cencored.  I felt like using it, I used it, and won\'t change it.  I like the expression, I use it often and enjoy thrusting.

*thrusts

as a comprimise, I will start posting "Jesus tap dancing christ"

Originally posted by Ryu


However, I have one very serious problem with your post and I\'ll quote it as it reaffirms exactly what I thought you meant beforehand in your earlier post...



The problem with people who are for the drug is that they treat it in the same vein as crack, cocaine, heroine, pcp, and all the other hard drugs out there simply because it is illegal and the same goes for the people who are against the drug primarily to dissolve any negative connotation it has, but when it comes to arguing for it, it is compared to legal drugs such as alcohol and tobacco (which of course includes cigars) and each one is stated as having killed millions of people, millions more then marijuana according to you, and for that reason alone, we should stop being hipocritical and either ban it all, or at least give marijuana the same shot tobacco and alcohol have been given all these years.  But the fact still remains that the contents of marijuana, over a long period of time, just like cigars, cigarettes and alcohol, can perpetually mess you up and cause death no matter how filtered they are.  

There\'s no "safe" alcohol other then rubbing alcohol and that\'s never to be ingested.

There\'s no "safe" smoke other then visible oxygen (which isn\'t visible to the naked eye).

There\'s no "safe" marijuana other then to simply abstain from it altogether.

And saying how you can filter marijuana in a bong doesn\'t get you off the hook either as it still contains plenty of carcinogens that kill tons of people every damn day.  Because most people smoke cigarettes AND smoke marijuana at the same time in their lives certainly doesn\'t dismiss the negative effects marijuana is having on your body whether you realize it or not.

You, just as an example, light up pretty damn often and are only letting up, according to you, because of time constraints.  Vivi, by his own admittance, is giving up because his parents busted him with it.  Would he continue if he didn\'t get busted?  Would you if you had more time?  No one can say for sure.  There\'s no way to know what a person will be doing from one day to the next, but in my own experience, the one that actually counts far more then any survey or scientific study to me, is that I\'ve seen people piss away a ton of cash for their habit.  I\'ve seen people so high, they fell into the street and were nearly killed by a passing car.  I\'ve seen people so high, they drive like maniacs on the road and end up in a bodybag the next morning.  I\'ve seen drunk people start fights, act like total jackasses, then never make it home the next day because they drove into a tree that same night.  I\'ve seen firsthand what cancer can do to you if you keep up your habits over a long period of time.  I\'ve also seen what fast food can do to people who choose to eat it day in and day out without exercising and collapse at the age of 40 with a pullmonary disorder.

I\'ve seen all of this, but what I find most insulting is that you can tell me, and everyone else on this forum, that marijuana doesn\'t kill you.  If you believe that, then you and Vivi are truly meant for each other and you two can light up simply in spite of me, but I refuse to believe that people willingly breathe in cannibis smoke, knowing there are very harmful chemicals in them, and then tell themselves that their cigarette habit or their drinking habit is killing them -- and not their weed.

First of all, I never said anything about lighting up often at all. once a week or so is by far not often. In my college days, I would smoke 12-14 different times a day just b/c I could. I do now maybe once a week, maybe twice when stressed. So I dont see how that is pretty often. Yes I am STOPPING..not letting up as my job is much more important than smoking occasionally.

How come there have been no confirmed reports of mj being directly for a persons death in recorded history? I wont say it doesnt help kill a person, as I never have. Just like stogies and cigs have been proven to have a direct link between them and cancer. MJ however has not to this day.

Well I agree pot will cause lung and throat cancer but so does cigs,I agree pot causes brain damage but so does alcohol.(Bumping your head also kills brain cells eg. sport)
As someone else said,when stoned you feel paranoid,when drinking you feel overconfident.I know who I\'d rather be on the road with.(not condoning driving stoned)
Also pot isn\'t a gateway drug anymore than cigs,alcohol,speed and x,as has been said it\'s the person not the drug.

And Ryu how did someone get so stoned he nearly fell in front of a car?I\'m thinking there was something else involved (cough)alcohol (cough)

Not having a go at you but I have never fallen over from pot.

I was wondering that too and forgot to address that.  Thats makes no sense as weed doesnt throw your sense of balance off.

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TSina, why are you stopping if it doesn\'t do anything?  Your job isn\'t 24/7.

What\'s your opinion on the fact they partially legalized pot, but not every other drug. Then said it dropped usage rates on other drugs?  Imo, of course that would have happened. Make pot legal, easy to get and cheaper. (which most likely happened)
The use of other drugs will drop. Make all drugs legal, cheaper and easy to get. THEN make a result.

Originally posted by theomen
Because I can\'t type f*ck it gets edited.  God damn is an effective phrase, and doesn\'t get cencored.  I felt like using it, I used it, and won\'t change it.  I like the expression, I use it often and enjoy thrusting.

*thrusts

as a comprimise, I will start posting "Jesus tap dancing christ"

Alright man. Do what you do. But we will all find out in the end and see what happens.

Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
TSina, why are you stopping if it doesn\'t do anything?  Your job isn\'t 24/7.

Come on now. Are you seriously asking this question? Use a little bit of common sense.