beheading of an american..

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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
What the US soilders did is as bad as this, it isn\'t murder, but its still using manipulation, control, and fear against others for personal reasons.

Whether the Iraqi prisoners are evil or not, we went in to their country and started treating some of their people like "objects" and humilliated them. In this region that is one of the WORST things you can do.

SirMystiq is right, both of these events were horrible.

this is true i remember some prisoners saying that what they went through was worse than death...still it\'s a sad trajedy & will only spark more rage on both sides..

giving some prisoners the beatdown and fukn beheading a civilian on TV are hardly the same

stop being a pussy and feeling bad for an enemy soldier WHO WOULD BEHEAD YOU, YOUR CHILDREN, OR POSSIBLY EVEN YOUR DOG THE SECOND THEY COULD

"worse than death", media proaganda lol. death, to those animals, is a blessing from allah.

mm, yes its horrible that they kill and kidnap people, but wtf do you expect? they are fighting for what they believe is right, obviously they will kill as many people as they think they need too.

War and conflict always bring about death and destruction on both sides. I don\'t see why one side is any more wrong then the other side.

And, im not feeling bad for anyone. I feel bad that this all happened for no reason and now things are a lot worse and a lot more people are dying then before.

do you see US troops beheading people, dragging thier burning bodies behind cars, or even sending children to suicide bomb buses in the name of allah?

if i was in charge over there, which im not cause i think we should have left them to genocide themselves long ago, i would order every last mofo that points a gun at a coalition soldier shot on sight.  thats right, non of this bullshit pansy feelings for prisoners of war.  they attempt to kill you?  kill them dead

this is war

this is thier stupid "jihad"

let them meet allah :rolleyes:

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mm i really understand where you are coming from..trust..as far as the abuse of the prisoners are concerned the u.s. cannot resort to their level if we\'re projecting ourselves as liberators..you have to have some type of understanding when you enter one\'s country ...stop lookin at these isolated incidents and look at this war from since the beginning and maybe you will understand where some of this rage comes from...

rage?  well, i think of them as less than human, so how can we understand them or thier rage?

like i said, i say we should have never even went there, NOT because we\'re fighting a pointless war on foriegn soil, but because those animals dont deserve our help

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i agree with you 100% we should have never been there....

DH, SirMystiq and anyone else that thinks the treatment of Iraqi prisoners is as bad as the killing and beheading of a US citizen has some really f\'d up values.  

I agree with mm... why should we be held to the conventions of warfare when they are not?  Should we have one hand tied behind our back?  Those who violently oppose our presence should all be humilated by women and buried with pork.  They are claiming they are fighting for Allah - then we should break their spirit and faith.  This isn\'t a war of liberation - this is ground zero of a cultural war.  

As mm stated us > them  

I think that is something you two forget - you are Americans and a fellow citizen - NON MILITARY - was killed.  He went over there to help the heathens and this is what they do to him simply because he is American (I also suspect he is Jewish due to his last name).  Screw winning their "hearts and minds".

mm, why are they less then human?

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
mm, why are they less then human?

This coming from a guy that thinks death is as bad as being humiliated. :rolleyes:

Giga, if we just left them alone they wouldnt bother us. This middle east vs. Western culture thing will never end.

Violance cannot stop violance, (genocide can, but i not think that\'s a good answer) We just need to stop the chain of war and attack and just let it go, change our foreign policy, and try to be less intrusive.

No, would rather be humilaited then killed, but on a political and global scale... Humiliation pisses them off just as much as murder.

any society that praises killing civilians in the sake of allah\'s good grace = less than human

humiliation?  they dont even know the meaning of the word.

We can\'t make their society change mm, it will change on their own, Western society went through the same thing. (Crusades)