EA to buy NFL player name rights

"Everything or Nothing" was a good game.

EA Big makes some of the best sports games PERIOD.

EA Sports\' Madden and NCAA Football are both 5-star franchises.

Originally posted by Knotter8
I\'m sorry, but it\'s my opinion that IF the console videogame industry comes to a crash, like way back in the early eighties, then it\'ll be (partly) becuz of EA.

It won\'t and if, hypothetically speaking, it did occur it would not be the fault(even partially) of a 3rd party multi-platform developer.

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Originally posted by Black Samurai
"Everything or Nothing" was a good game.

EA Big makes some of the best sports games PERIOD.

EA Sports\' Madden and NCAA Football are both 5-star franchises.

It won\'t and if, hypothetically speaking, it did occur it would not be the fault(even partially) of a 3rd party multi-platform developer.

tru..no doubt..i never said ea was crap..BUT espn clearly plays more realistic than madden...

^Of course it won\'t crash like back then. The videogames industry was in it\'s infancy in those years. The circumstances were different. But the main reason why it crashed is ; a saturated market with crappy to subpar games in which the gamer public had lost complete interest.

The point is : Other companies are of course also in the biz for profit, but \'guys\' like Konami, Ubisoft, Sony and Nintendo and such still have this sincere upright vision/soul/effort in their products. They create games with original content, thoughtfull original gameplay and custom made engines...... alot of EA\'s products feel like digitized interactive commercial adds to me.

Their F1 games are a complete disaster. Yes, the graphics look slick, especially in static screenshots and the official license crap is all in there with teams, drivers and everything.... but, then you play it and you notice you\'re playing a friggin\' slideshow, sucha horrible framerate and control.. ughhh

I\'m sorry if you happen to enjoy their sports games, but that\'s just my opinion on EA. This rant is also not aimed at the individual programmer nor artists who might work for one of EA\'s game studio\'s or talented studio they bought (hostile takeover ??? )  ; no, this is aimed at their management, their product business model and how all that imho negatively influences the videogame market as a whole.

Until they change, EA\'ll remain \'no-love-for-the-games\' business suits to me. Heck, even MS is more sincere with their XNA vision...

but \'guys\' like Konami, Ubisoft, Sony and Nintendo and such still have this sincere upright vision/soul/effort in their products.

I love how you leave M$ out. You actually think SONY is any different, MY GOD man wake up.

quoting my damnself ;

"Heck, even MS is more sincere with their XNA vision"

as for Sony ;

like I said, all companies are commercial yes, i acknowledge that, but at least the majority of Sony games are good quality and they offer room for originality of content with games like Ico and Mark of Kri etc.

Alright let me throw this out there:

Battlefield 1942
Need For Speed
The Sims
Freedom Fighters
Fight Night
NBA Street
NFL Street

How many genres has EA created or set the benchmark in? You can\'t knock EA for having an excellent business model when every other company is trying to do the same thing.

I understand what people are saying but EA does contribute a lot to the overpopulation of "casual gamers." I cant stand those boobs. They eat up garbage like its the creme de la creme of gaming, driving ingenuity down because in order to compete, people have to put out these "me - too" casual kinda games.

Dont get me wrong, and say im some EA, casual gaming hating freak. There are games that EA makes that i do enjoy. But people just suck up all kinds of things that people put out there. I mean there are games that will suck complete ass, and because it has a lot of violence, a kool name and good looking box art, people will buy it. Its nuts.

To make a list of comments gone rant short, Ill just say one more thing about the matter.

1) In almost all blockbusters i go to, out of all the launch games on ps2, they still have X-Squad.

Thats all that ill say

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Oh God.  Now we are ragging on EA because they appeal to "Casual Gamers"  Dude, you are graping man.

Well.... try to understand the bigger picture Lord Nicon is pointing out ; the influence of EA\'s mass market \'casual gamer public\' business model is a like double edged sword.

It does indeed \'grow\' the industry as a whole, but it also waters it down with cut n paste game engines on which they \'paste\' slick license logo\'s of each succesive annual edition. Granted, their main leverage, EA Sports and EA Big are value for money...if you enjoy those kinda games. Unfortunately I\'m (like many others) very not interested in sports games, except for F1...and you know how they screwed that up.

I\'m not saying you can\'t have ANY fun with any random pick EA game, but imho their influence on the perception of the videogames industry, by casual gamers and outsiders (sceptics, parents, anti-videogame lobbies etc.) should not be underestimated as a not so positive thing.

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well i\'m only speaking from the standpoint of madden..yea madden is a solid title, but i like millions of others bought madden faithfully like a zombie no matter what..but after madden 2003, i got sick of the same rehashes year after year,.the super comeback mode of the computer in the 4th quarter, no matter what team the computer had..

granted all sports games rehash stuff to improve upon the forth coming year,..but espn imo made huge improvements last year..i absoutely loved nfl primetime,.. yea it\'s all cosmetic but those are the small details that make it that much more real...espn already had good gameplay so these small details improved the overall game greatly..

as far as other games are concerned i really enjoyed def jam vendetta & i\'m enjoying fight night..ea makes some soild titles it just seems they are a bit overrated..

I was slightly tempted when I saw Bond EoN getting some pretty good previews. The screens and the short gameplay clips looked cool.

Enter the reviews ; it got pretty good scores, avereging about 85 out of 100 mostly. But there were also complaints and they where the typical things about why I don\'t like EA\'s way of handling the Bond franchise ;

- very short
- paced like an action movie, almost as if the player is forced to follow the movie script litterally.
- the inclusion of all kinds of gameplay cropped in there just too appeal to mainstream :

* driving | cut n paste NFS engine
* helicopter flight | ON RAILS !  :o
* only one decent executed stealth level
* uniform glossy visuals

So, while it all looks cool and slick with all the actors and stuff in it...I can\'t but shake the feeling that EA doesn\'t want to push the envelope. I acknowledge ; it\'s not crap or halfassed, but it\'s sooo damn stuck to this dreaded formulac/commercially way of making games... ugh...

Now as much as we may agreen on certain points i will have to dissagree and say that EoN was a pretty good game. And if you like to play online then hey, more power to you. Perhaps you may not want to buy it but its definately a rental.

The graphics are pretty good, the driving is not that bad and there are some fairly innovative parts. As for the helicopter: Its not on rails at all. Theres a butt load of extras to unlock when you beat platinum challenges on oo agent and also some if you only get golds.

Im not entirely sure if this will ruin much but if its in order to convince you ill use it. Theres a part where you get to free fall and doge ledges while shooting enemies and rescuing a falling Shannon Elizabeth. If that doesnt sound neat then i dont know what does.

Last of all, there are a ton of vehicles that you get to use and a bunch of new gadgets. If you dont want to buy it cheap then i Highly suggest that you rent it at least.

Originally posted by Knotter8
- very short
- paced like an action movie, almost as if the player is forced to follow the movie script litterally.
- the inclusion of all kinds of gameplay cropped in there just too appeal to mainstream :

* driving | cut n paste NFS engine
* helicopter flight | ON RAILS !  :o
* only one decent executed stealth level
* uniform glossy visuals

1) It was short but not too short

2) I\'m not following the paced like an action movie bit. The game certainly felt like you were playing a Bond movie. I can\'t, for the life of me, figure out why that is a bad thing.

3) Thats crazy. Adding varying gameplay to appeal to the casual gamer?!?! Lay down the pipe.

4) The driving levels were fun. They can cut-and-paste the Mario Kart engine for all I care. If the shit is fun WHO CARES?

5) There were only two(?) helicopter levels and they were not on rails.

6) Bond is not Sam Fisher. Why do you care about stealth levels in a Bond game for f*cks sake.

7) I don\'t even know what that means. The graphics were definately above average.

Ok, ok ! I surrender ! :eek:    

.....still a shame the good ol\' RareWare team has fallen apart, eh ?

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^^^this is the part where nicon & black sam say "you silly fool resistance is futile!"