Shaq deal close to finish

Man you just don\'t get it. The most dominant player in the game has left your team. You could say the man is getting old but it doesnt matter, he didnt show aging during the playoffs. And you think a roster of mediocre players and one superstar will change it? 2 of those guys are 35+. And im still baffled the Lakers want payton, did they forget his oppenents on the other teams were slaughtering him?

Not only did Shaq leave, but  so did the Mailman, Derek Fisher and Phil-freakin-Jackson. I don\'t need to tell you what effect they had on the team.

Besides losing all those Lakers, the team never took a look at their weaknesses. Was the bench strengthened? Only for the centers... Defense? lost 2 important figures

Now lets talk about the new Lakers\' new competition.

Nuggets: picked up K-mart
Suns: picked up Nash
Houston: picked up the 2 time leading scorer
Jazz: young team gets older, and picks up Okur and Boozer
Spurs: young team gets older, and picks up a player to compensate for 2 weakness


So lets review. The Lakers lost the most dominant player and one of the most of all-time, lost Phil Jackson the coach with best winning % all-time, did not consult their weaknesses, and all this is happening when other teams are getting better.


You should be shy.

Man I totally agree vivi is doing to much raving over brent barry when he is not that good. He is decent at best.

You know what the lakers don\'t look that bad and malone may return. Espn reported he was glad the lakers signed divac. And they say kobe and divac are pushing him to come back.

PG - Gary Payton
SG - Kobe Bryant
C - Vlade Divac
PF - malone
SF - odom

Not a bad starting five.

Im not raving about Brent Barry, Im raving about the Spurs.

I don\'t think Odom would play at SF... But if Malone stays, the Lakers will have so much depth coming off the bench.

Like I said, they will be a good team. They\'ll make the playoffs, easily.

Divac is one of the top 5 centers in the league, he\'s nothing compared to Shaq really, but he can at least shoot the ball outside the key. The Lakers won\'t be so concentrated down low.

I\'m sorry Vivi, but you are raving about Brent Barry. You think that he is like the holy grail and the missing piece to the Spurs\' puzzle.

He is the missing piece. And you might not believe it but Marc Stein does, and so does Lakers fanboy Eric Neel.

Both Ginobli and Parker are going to be better this year, especially Parker. You can quote me and save it to shove it in my face if you think im wrong. But since Hedon
t left Ginobli can finally start. When Ginobli or Parker needs to sit, guess who comes out. When we are forced to shoot 3\'s (Lakers Spurs series), you wont want us to.

I think hes the missing piece because Parker has exploded into one hell of a PG, as seen in the playoffs. Spurs were unstoppable until they were pushed to shoot 3\'s and thats when Hedon\'t choked. Get it?

Originally posted by SwifDi
I don\'t think Odom would play at SF... But if Malone stays, the Lakers will have so much depth coming off the bench.

Like I said, they will be a good team. They\'ll make the playoffs, easily.

Divac is one of the top 5 centers in the league, he\'s nothing compared to Shaq really, but he can at least shoot the ball outside the key. The Lakers won\'t be so concentrated down low.

I\'m sorry Vivi, but you are raving about Brent Barry. You think that he is like the holy grail and the missing piece to the Spurs\' puzzle.

Well odoms true position is small forward and they already said if malone comes back they will move him to small forward and butler and grant will come off the bench.

And vivi you were raving about barry. I think the lakers will be a top team in the west if malone comes back. There bench will be better than it has been in years.

Originally posted by ViVi
He is the missing piece. And you might not believe it but Marc Stein does, and so does Lakers fanboy Eric Neel.

The missing piece to what? Please explain you talk about defense were was the spurs defense against the lakers?

I have always thought the spurs was overrated. They are a good team but they are not as good as ppl thought. up 2-0 and choke.
I don\'t think they will come out of the west next season.

Read the rest of my post. And what do you mean what defense?! I remember the last 2 games being under 80\'s. And we know it wasnt the Lakers doin it.

Originally posted by ViVi
Read the rest of my post. And what do you mean what defense?! I remember the last 2 games being under 80\'s. And we know it wasnt the Lakers doin it.

Nope buddy one game was under 80 when fisher hit the wild shot at the buzer. The second game the lakers won by 12 88-76

If u wanna see defense check out the pistons vs laker. They held la to 68 points ouch........

Ah hell I\'ll say it again. Remember the Spurs entering the playoffs in a 12 game win streak, and then sweeping the Grizzlies? Then appearing to sweep the Lakers too? It all stopped when the Spurs were forced to shoot outside. We kept missin the threes and they Lakers relied on that to win. We got Hedo to take care of that problem, just like Kerr was to us last time. Now we have picked up a Steve Kerr like player, except this one is younger and can back up the gaurds.

Originally posted by QuDDus
Nope buddy one game was under 80 when fisher hit the wild shot at the buzer. The second game the lakers won by 12 88-76

If u wanna see defense check out the pistons vs laker. They held la to 68 points ouch........

Oh jesus... thats still a low scoring game.

And in case you didnt know, the spurs tied Detroit for points allowed that year.

Originally posted by ViVi
Ah hell I\'ll say it again. Remember the Spurs entering the playoffs in a 12 game win streak, and then sweeping the Grizzlies? Then appearing to sweep the Lakers too? It all stopped when the Spurs were forced to shoot outside. We kept missin the threes and they Lakers relied on that to win. We got Hedo to take care of that problem, just like Kerr was to us last time. Now we have picked up a Steve Kerr like player, except this one is younger and can back up the gaurds.

Are you serious? Do you think 3\'s was the reason they lost?
you are a die hard spurs fan if you believe that.
The spurs choked. Parker was shut down. And duncan could not carry the load.

The lakers did not double team duncan a lot. Forcing there other guys to make plays. When there best play maker is duncan. I never liked tony parker. PPl were hyping him up because the first two games he played good.

Originally posted by ViVi
Oh jesus... thats still a low scoring game.

And in case you didnt know, the spurs tied Detroit for points allowed that year.

I am not talkin season I am talking post season which is what every major sport boils down to. In the post season we find who has it and who does not.

The spurs did not have it. Piston had much better D throughtout the playoffs than your purrrrrrrrs.

Originally posted by QuDDus
Are you serious? Do you think 3\'s was the reason they lost?
you are a die hard spurs fan if you believe that.
The spurs choked. Parker was shut down. And duncan could not carry the load.

The lakers did not double team duncan a lot. Forcing there other guys to make plays. When there best play maker is duncan. I never liked tony parker. PPl were hyping him up because the first to games he played good.

Yeah Im a die hard Spurs fan. But I know basketball, and obviously you don\'t because thats what happened. I know Im right because a lot of ESPN writers see the same, even the writers that like the Lakers. Thats all I have to say about it, because thats all there is to say.

Originally posted by ViVi
Yeah Im a die hard Spurs fan. But I know basketball, and obviously you don\'t because thats what happened. I know Im right because a lot of ESPN writers see the same, even the writers that like the Lakers. Thats all I have to say about it, because thats all there is to say.

"We kept missin the threes and they Lakers relied on that to win"

Do you know the same thing happen to kings 2 years ago?
Man those teams that rely on 3\'s to win game:stick:


alert "quote of the week"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know Im right because a lot of ESPN writers see the same:rolleyes: