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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2004, 04:34:31 AM »
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What will a black president solve that any other person can\'t?  Want a hint?

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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2004, 05:47:44 AM »
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I love you. I\'m glad someone else understands I do have a style.

You know what we need? A mexican President. One of those could help the country a lot more than a white / black President...hmph...Err..Or you know what would be really nice? A good President.

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On a serious , non-sarcastic remark. I do hope we have a black President in my lifetime. Would just be really cool to see, in my humble opinion.

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2004, 07:12:09 AM »
I want to be elected as Dictator of America. My first order would be to annex Canada and send the residents off to France and Britain. Then I\'d buy Mexico and move the residents to Spain. South America...well....I\'d blow up the Panama Canal so they can\'t cross over. :)
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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2004, 03:05:18 PM »
Here\'s a good article highlighting what a joke Alan Keyes is in this Senate race.  

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"The politics of tokenism"

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The Republicans have made a bad mistake in pitting Alan Keyes against Barack Obama

THREE weeks ago in Boston, the Democrats witnessed the birth of a new black star in Barack Obama, their candidate for the open Senate seat in Illinois. Now the Republicans have conjured up a black star of their own to do battle with the self-described skinny guy with an odd name. Alan Keyes, talk-show host, holy-roller social conservative, Maryland resident and sometime presidential candidate, will take Mr Obama on.

The thinking behind this is beguiling in its simplicity: the Democrats have a black man who can give a rafter-raising speech, so we had better find a rafter-raising black man too. Beguiling, but stupid. Mr Keyes\'s Senate run will produce nothing but disaster—humiliation for Mr Keyes, more pie on the face of the already pie-covered Illinois Republican Party, and yet another setback for Republican efforts to woo minority voters.

Mr Keyes\'s problems start with his personality. The Republicans\' new champion is the very opposite of cool. In 1996 he chained himself to the front door of a television station in Atlanta, Georgia, to protest against a decision to exclude him from a presidential debate (he was then mounting the first of his two bids for the presidency). His speeches can certainly be eloquent. But they can also be intemperate and plain weird, particularly on the subject of gays.

Mr Keyes\'s politics are of a piece with his personality. He is a genuine intellectual, a disciple of the great Allan Bloom, and has a PhD in political science from Harvard. But his intellectualism drives him to take absolutist positions on some of the most divisive subjects in American politics. He doesn\'t just call for a reduction of taxes; he calls for the complete abolition of the “slave” income tax. He doesn\'t just want to blur the line between church and state like George Bush; he argues that the division between church and state has no basis in the constitution. He doesn\'t just disagree with Mr Obama on abortion; he castigates him for holding “the slaveholder\'s position” on the subject.

This sort of absolutism doesn\'t go down well anywhere in America outside an eccentric fringe. But it goes down particularly badly in the meat-and-potatoes mid-west, where people expect politicians to solve real problems—as the Daleys have done so spectacularly in Chicago, perhaps America\'s best-run city—rather than waffle on about the meaning of the constitution. The Republicans who have flourished in the region have been middle-of-the-road pragmatists such as Jim Edgar and James Thompson, both former governors of Illinois.

This is hardly an auspicious start. But Mr Keyes brings two further disadvantages to his late-term Senate bid. The first is the charge of “carpetbagging”. Illinois is the sort of state where politicians are expected to cultivate their constituencies for years, and where people reminisce about the Cook County political machine\'s legendary operating style in Chicago in the 1960s. The Democrats are cheerfully claiming that the Republicans are so bereft of talent in a state of 12.5m people that they have to go to Maryland to find any. And they are gleefully reminding everyone of Mr Keyes\'s pompous scolding of Hillary Clinton, on Fox News in 2000, for running for the Senate in “a state she doesn\'t even live in”.

The Keyes candidacy also smacks of tokenism. The candidate routinely denounces affirmative action as a form of racial discrimination. But what other than racial discrimination can explain the Illinois Republican Party\'s decision to shortlist two blacks for the Illinois slot—and eventually to choose Mr Keyes? He brings no powerful backers or deep pockets, and was thrashed in his two runs for the Senate in Maryland.

Desperate measures

The Illinois Republicans are not just guilty of tokenism. They are guilty of last-minute scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel tokenism. The local party has been undergoing a sort of collective mental breakdown ever since Jack Ryan\'s Senate candidacy collapsed in June over a sordid sex scandal. The party tried a laundry-list of candidates, including two former Illinois governors, two state senators, several wealthy businessmen, a former football coach and, according to Dennis Hastert, “a 70-year-old guy who was a great farm broadcaster in Illinois”, before turning at last to Mr Keyes.

To make matters even worse for the Republicans, Mr Keyes\'s numerous defects as a candidate are only magnified by the comparison with Mr Obama. Mr Obama has spent almost 20 years in Illinois—seven as a state senator—and is married to a woman from the South Side of Chicago. He won an impressive 53% of the Democratic primary vote against six strong opponents. He is optimistic where Mr Keyes preaches Sodom and Gomorrah, and moderate where Mr Keyes is intemperate. He is also a rising national star, with unrivalled support from the national party, while Mr Keyes is a serial failure.

The Republicans\' fatal mistake was to think that the best way to counter a black man was with another black man. The point about Mr Obama—as the Republicans might have realised if they had paid greater attention to his speech in Boston—is that he is a post-racial candidate. Mr Obama is the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas who was brought up by his white mother and grandparents in Hawaii and South-East Asia. He appeals just as strongly to white suburban voters as he does to blacks.

Over the past few years, the Republicans have made serious attempts to court blacks. Mr Bush gave blacks two of the most senior positions in his administration, secretary of state and national security adviser. But the Illinois Republican Party\'s decision to choose Alan Keyes is not a serious attempt at outreach. It is a ridiculous parody of it—and it will result in a crushing defeat this November.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2004, 06:10:38 PM »
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I know that. I was thinking how it would be good to see a different race in there for once. If it doesn\'t matter what race is in office, why hasn\'t there been a black president yet?
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2004, 08:25:25 PM »
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I know that. I was thinking how it would be good to see a different race in there for once. If it doesn\'t matter what race is in office, why hasn\'t there been a black president yet?

None of the runners have been worthy enough and just went on the fact that they were black perhaps? I cant think of the ones that tried but Sharpton should have known that he didnt have a chance. Shit, i wouldnt even vote for him.

 
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On a serious , non-sarcastic remark. I do hope we have a black President in my lifetime. Would just be really cool to see, in my humble opinion.

Ditto. I cant imagine what kind of state the world would be in/have to be in when a Black person becomes president. That day would just be both crazy and groundbreaking. I think the klan would throw a fit. Lynching rates go up, and the nation goes crazy because one group cant help but do something to the other. I can see it now...

Jeez i hope that wouldnt happen.
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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2004, 03:14:51 PM »
That\'s what America needs. Some new blood. New serial killers. New riots. We neeeeeeed a revolution!

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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2004, 07:16:25 PM »
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Ditto. I cant imagine what kind of state the world would be in/have to be in when a Black person becomes president. That day would just be both crazy and groundbreaking. I think the klan would throw a fit. Lynching rates go up, and the nation goes crazy because one group cant help but do something to the other. I can see it now...

Jeez i hope that wouldnt happen.



Same here, hope this doesnt\' happen if one is elected. It probably won\'t. The Klan would throw a fit but who gives a shit about them. They aren\'t what they used to be (like what they were in the 20s).
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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2004, 07:30:30 PM »
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Same here, hope this doesnt\' happen if one is elected. It probably won\'t. The Klan would throw a fit but who gives a shit about them. They aren\'t what they used to be (like what they were in the 20s).


Obviously you are not up with the new Klan down here in the south. It\'s still alive and well , infact, from what I understand one of the m0derators of this forum is the White Master / Supreme Leader.

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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2004, 04:12:08 PM »
^lol^
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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2004, 04:53:19 PM »
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Obviously you are not up with the new Klan down here in the south. It\'s still alive and well , infact, from what I understand one of the m0derators of this forum is the White Master / Supreme Leader.

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Eh, whatever. I know its alive and well, but compared to what it was in the 20s, its a lot smaller and a lot different. I don\'t remember when the last lynching was. I don\'t even know if they do that anymore (like kill ruthlessly other races. I see on the history channel they still speak out). I don\'t know much about the modern klan though.
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« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2004, 06:34:25 PM »
There hasn\'t been a black president because both major parties realize there are still a large number of racists in our country.
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« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2004, 06:49:50 PM »
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There hasn\'t been a black president because both major parties realize there are still a large number of racists in our country.

I dont quite know about that, but the amount of racists would definately keep a black person out of office. Not to mention any black president would most likely be a democrat. Thats 2 pretty strong forces working against them.

Who knows if it will happen in our lives.
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« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2004, 06:51:09 PM »
Not to mention a black President would be a prime candiate for an assination.

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« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2004, 06:57:18 PM »
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Not to mention a black President would be a prime candiate for an assination.

Thats a no-brainer.

Sadly, if it did happen, it would be an assasination by one of his own countrymen. That you cant deny.... sadly
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