Fable gets....... at gamespot

Ryu DID finish FF7 in 2 days the first time if I remember well
I finished Silent Hill 1 in 3 days without intense playing.
I finished silent hill 2 in 2 days without intense playing
I finished silent hill 3 in 2 days without intense playing
I finished ZOE2 in 2 days without intense playing
I cant comment on Resi1 becuase I was 13 years old and I crapped my pants everytime I tried to play the game since it was my first experience to the survival horror genre.

And as we said earlier what would you think about the game if you didnt know it took 5 years to appear in stores?The gamer cares about owning a good game.He doesnt care about the time it took for the developers to get it developed
MGS1 also was in development since 1995 if I am not mistaken.Perhaps even earlier if we take the script and structure they were planning for the game before the programers started working on the code.It was released near the end of 1998(or was it 1999).It took less than 10 hours to finish and half of the game involved cut scenes and conversations over the codec.Yet it was one of my greatest gaming experience ever.

Fable unlike MGS1 took a lot more risks, trying to offer something completely new and P.M was stupid enough to talk about them with confidence as if they were easy to implement.
What we got is a game that have passed more risks than most other games.At the end we got a Fable that is above average and getting scores around 8.5.Its just not perfect.
I would have bought it thats for sure.
Also FFX offered nothing new.It was great,But it was a 32-bit game with 128 bit graphics.But I enjoyied it.It got a 6 or 7 out of 10 in EDGE and if I remember well a 7 or an 8 in the UK Official PS2 magazine.Still a nice purchase.
Now you will say "But FFX needs lots of hours to finish"
Atleast Fable although short offers nice gameplay and a few nice ideas according to people who have playied the game.

Shouldnt you start trashing games that dont offer anything you in terms of gameplay too if you care so much about gaming?

is SH an action/rpg?
did it take 5 years to dev?

ryu did NOT finish ff7 in two days 1st time thru (unless he cheated with a guild)

moot points, all of them

try again, and please stop trying to alter the point at hand  with crap to save your dead argument

why are you comparing it to SH?  why are you comparing it to ff7?

^heh

*watches mm scramble around in that deep hole he\'s made himself.

hole?  you twits are digging the hole.
or grasping at straws, you choose

Originally posted by mm
is SH an action/rpg?
did it take 5 years to dev?

ryu did NOT finish ff7 in two days 1st time thru (unless he cheated with a guild)

moot points, all of them

try again, and please stop trying to alter the point at hand  with crap to save your dead argument

why are you comparing it to SH?  why are you comparing it to ff7?

I\'m not proceeding any further and repeating my points until you answer this:

"I\'m not sure why this didn\'t cross my mind before, but what exactly are you looking for me to agree with? I obviously haven\'t been able to make well enough sense out of your arguement and it seems you can\'t either since you refuse to reinforce it with reason.

What do you want?"

i want to you stop comparing fable to epic hardcore RPG\'s or action/adventure games like SH to change the subjet at hand

which is, why a 5 year delayed, overly hyped peter M game only lasts 10 hours the 1ST time thru it, and he HAD to apologize for it

and lastly, that its a letdown

Originally posted by mm
is SH an action/rpg?
did it take 5 years to dev?

ryu did NOT finish ff7 in two days 1st time thru (unless he cheated with a guild)

moot points, all of them

try again, and please stop trying to alter the point at hand  with crap to save your dead argument

why are you comparing it to SH?  why are you comparing it to ff7?

1)Because the amount a game needs to finish is not always the biggest issue.These were examples that proove that

2)Because we dont care as much about the time that was spent for it.Not that we dont care at all.

Originally posted by mm
i want to you stop comparing fable to epic hardcore RPG\'s or action/adventure games like SH to change the subjet at hand

This has nothing to do with Ginko\'s post.Just with mine.And only my last posts mention other titles.I explained why I mentione these games

which is, why a 5 year delayed, overly hyped peter M game only lasts 10 hours the 1ST time thru it, and he HAD to apologize for it

and lastly, that its a letdown [/B]

when have we disagreed on that?

oh, about 16 pages ago or we wouldnt be having this conversation

say fable is a big letdown, and i promise i\'ll STFU about it

Originally posted by mm
i want to you stop comparing fable to epic hardcore RPG\'s or action/adventure games like SH to change the subjet at hand

First of all you are the one drawing the comparison here, the comparison of time development for a video game as if there\'s a standard ratio of development time : play time.  If you could actually prove there is such a thing...

Unicron!\'s points are anything but moot, you brought up the discussion of what Fable could be completed in.  He just brought up other games and what they could be completed in.

which is, why a 5 year delayed, overly hyped peter M game only lasts 10 hours the 1ST time thru it, and he HAD to apologize for it

Second, you need to get your facts straight if you want me to take you seriously.  >>>Fact Check<<<

1. Fable\'s total development time is 4 years, first shown at E3 in May, 2001.
2. Fable\'s original release date was Fall/Winter 2003, before Christmas.  The actual delay time is approx. 9-12 months.
3. The annoucement of Fable\'s delay was in January of 2003
4. The game can last 10 hours, depending entirely on you, the player.  
5. Peter didn\'t have to do anything and he certainly didn\'t apologize for the game and the people enjoying it.  I already asked you to read that letter more carefully.

Originally posted by mm
say fable is a big letdown, and i promise i\'ll STFU about it

I can\'t say that and mean it since I haven\'t played it.  To the contrary all of my friends who have played it are telling me it\'s one of the best game\'s they\'ve played.

They\'re having fun with it.

good, i win

my satisfacion is peter M being the 1st ever dev to apologize for a game

just pathetic, call me when shigeru  myamoto apologizes for a game

good, i win

thanks for playing

Just for the record I haven\'t agreed with you on any account and those were your conditions for "winning".  

If anything your post now indicates that you refuse to accept the facts I pointed out and would rather roll around in the pile of shit you built up through this thread.

You have proven now more than ever that you are indeed a troll.

you know fable is a letdown, you refuse to admit it merely in an attempt to drag this out farthur

you call me a troll means very, very little.
should i be offended?  insulted?

oh dear god, ginko called me a troll cause i refuse to support half-assed devs like peter M and hope the gaming industry keeps pumping crap like fable out.

fable will be an afterthought, like so many other xbox exclusives

Originally posted by mm
oh, about 16 pages ago or we wouldnt be having this conversation

say fable is a big letdown, and i promise i\'ll STFU about it

Man I agree its a letdown considering what was promised and what was offered.I agree on that.But certaintly its not crap.Its still a good game.Its not like the dissapointment for example DMC fans got when they playied DMC2.Its not trash.Its not logical to try and convince people who have playied the game that its trash when they find it good

Fine, should I start calling you a piece of pretentious crap instead?  That fits too.

You\'re the one dragging this out trying to get a synonomous agreement that Fable isn\'t a good game when you have so much evidence clearly stating otherwise.  My arguement was never against you being let down by Fable but rather in saying that Fable is a letdown as if a fact.

Your ego is bruised because you weren\'t right, I just enjoy kicking you while you\'re down.