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First of all, I second what ROL Jamas says.  However, New England didn\'t have its top 4 DBs, top 2 WRs, and Corey Dillon was injured...

I know dealing with injury is part of the game, but attrition is eventually gonna take its toll.

Originally posted by The Hurricane
First of all, I second what ROL Jamas says.  However, New England didn\'t have its top 4 DBs, top 2 WRs, and Corey Dillon was injured...

I know dealing with injury is part of the game, but attrition is eventually gonna take its toll.

Excuses for the patriots how sad:o

Originally posted by ROL Jamas
You didn\'t watch Pittsburgh just march all over New England, did you? And I\'m also assuming that you didn\'t see the Chiefs put up 200 rushing yards and dominate the Ravens in Baltimore on Monday Night Football, as well.

The way I see it, there are a lot of teams that could beat the Eagles if McNabb is forced to win the game with his arm. With Westbrook being hobbled, that\'s what\'s going to happen -- The Eagles lose to the Steelers. Yeah, I said it.

*waits for obligatory argument*

And Scott...how about them Canes?

See Yuz.

Even with that being sad. The chiefs are not as good as they where last season. They where expected to be seeded higher in the NFL and now they are on the brink of barely making the playoffs. They are hardly contenders for  the eagles. And the steelers have the best shot of beating the eagles but thank god McNabb is much better than you give him credit and the steelers don\'t stand a chance. 8-0:)

I wasn\'t saying that the Chiefs were, I was just saying how much the Ravens Defense has declined, one of Ethan\'s prime arguments.

I\'ve got class coming up, but when I get back, I\'ll be sure to show you Donovan McNabb\'s "gaudy" passing stats. He\'s not a pocket passer, it\'s been proven. 3 INT\'s against Carolina in the NFC Title game, anyone?

See Yuz.

Originally posted by ROL Jamas
You didn\'t watch Pittsburgh just march all over New England, did you? And I\'m also assuming that you didn\'t see the Chiefs put up 200 rushing yards and dominate the Ravens in Baltimore on Monday Night Football, as well.

The way I see it, there are a lot of teams that could beat the Eagles if McNabb is forced to win the game with his arm. With Westbrook being hobbled, that\'s what\'s going to happen -- The Eagles lose to the Steelers. Yeah, I said it.

*waits for obligatory argument*

And Scott...how about them Canes?

See Yuz.

I did watch the Pittsburgh game, and I for one was very, very pleased.  You don\'t know how tired I was of hearing about that damn streak.  As for the Chiefs/Ravens game, yeah, I saw that too.  I don\'t know what point you\'re trying to make...but the Chiefs rushed for 178 yards on 46 attempts.  The Chiefs, a team with one of, if not the best backs in the league, and one of, if not the best lines in the league, rips off 178 yards on 46 attempts.  The Eagles, who aren\'t at all known for running the ball, with one aging player and an unknown BYU kid at halfback, got 113 yards on 27 attempts.  That\'s pretty much on par with what the Chiefs pulled.

Bottom line:  Our run game is solid with or without Westbrook.  Granted, we don\'t really have that big play threat without him, and there aren\'t as many matchup problems, but they still come through when we need them.

I know the Eagles are facing a tough game Sunday...I just think they\'ll come out on top.  The Patriots turned the ball over 4 times on Sunday, and that cost them the game...don\'t look for that from the Eagles.

Alright, so you were saying the Baltimore D has declined.  My bad.  But still, Baltimore is 7th in the league against the rush...which isn\'t exactly to shabby.  And again, given that Dorsey and Reno aren\'t exactly premier backs...they did fairly well.

Assuming your next argument is going to be showing how McNabb faired the last time he had to rely solely on passing...you have to realize...in the NFC championship game, the Carolina CBs were absolutely OWNING our WRs.  He threw 3 INTs.  How many of them were his fault?  I\'d say one.  

There\'s one BIG difference this year, as opposed the NFC Championship game without Westbrook:  Terrell Owens.  He demands double coverage, that frees up the other WRs and TEs.  He\'s also a deep threat, which opens up the run for the Eagles.  Pass to set up the run...that\'s the theory, and it\'s rather effective.

Originally posted by QuDDus
Excuses for the patriots how sad:o

Like I said in an earlier post, I\'m not making excuses, just pointing out facts.  If the Eagles lose to the Steelers, it\'s kinda different cause their playing with all their star players.  Injuries are part of the game, yes, but it gets to a point where it will have an effect on your game.

Don\'t be so bold in your statements, the Eagles haven\'t won anything yet, if I\'m not mistaken, there\'s a certain NFC title game that has eluded them for three straight years.

The Eagles do not have all of their "star players".  They are missing quite a few of their would be stars.

N.D Kalu
Correll Buckhalter
Brian Westbrook
Shawn Andrews
Jon Ritchie

And, one of the best Special Teamsmen in the game, Jason Short.

That\'s 6 the Eagles have been without/will be without against Pittsburgh.  The fact that they\'re 7-0 is a true testament to the depth on the Philly roster.  If the reason New England lost is due to injuries, perhaps they need to build a little bit past their starters.

Originally posted by ROL Jamas
I wasn\'t saying that the Chiefs were, I was just saying how much the Ravens Defense has declined, one of Ethan\'s prime arguments.

I\'ve got class coming up, but when I get back, I\'ll be sure to show you Donovan McNabb\'s "gaudy" passing stats. He\'s not a pocket passer, it\'s been proven. 3 INT\'s against Carolina in the NFC Title game, anyone?

See Yuz.

I agree to a certain degree. I think McNabb has shown his maturity in the game. He lets the game come to him instead of forcing it. He looks to the pass. I mean before McNabb had very few decent recievers to work with. But T.O opens up a lot of things up for the passing game that the eagles never had. Overall I feel McNabb is a mutch better QB in the pocket than he has been in the pass. But his leadership on the feel is what drives the team.

Originally posted by IareEthan
The Eagles do not have all of their "star players".  They are missing quite a few of their would be stars.

N.D Kalu
Correll Buckhalter
Brian Westbrook
Shawn Andrews
Jon Ritchie

And, one of the best Special Teamsmen in the game, Jason Short.

That\'s 6 the Eagles have been without/will be without against Pittsburgh.  The fact that they\'re 7-0 is a true testament to the depth on the Philly roster.  If the reason New England lost is due to injuries, perhaps they need to build a little bit past their starters.

They did, in case you didn\'t read I\'ll say it again.  The injuries are getting so deep in New England that they will soon have their JV out there.

The backups for the backups are even getting injured.  The campsiron is not even close.  Just stop trying to compare, your going to lose.

Like I said, the Eagles haven\'t won anything yet.

Originally posted by The Hurricane
They did, in case you didn\'t read I\'ll say it again.  The injuries are getting so deep in New England that they will soon have their JV out there.

The backups for the backups are even getting injured.  The campsiron is not even close.  Just stop trying to compare, your going to lose.

Like I said, the Eagles haven\'t won anything yet.

Oh I read it, but you\'re being a biased fan.  Many NFL teams have the same problem, the Eagles being one.  The Eagles continue to win, the Patriots have droppes one.  All that I\'m saying is, they\'re in a similar boat, so if you\'re using injuries as an excuse, you need more depth.  Let\'s take a look at those who would be out for you going into the Pitt game...

Corey Dillon
Patrick Pass
Tyrone Poole
Tom Ashworth
Deion Branch

Those are the big guys you were missing before the game.   Then you lost Law.  So let\'s break it down.

Going into the game, Pats down one starting RB, Eagles down two.

Going into the game, Pats and Eagles both down one starting FB.

Going into the game, Pats and Eagles both down one starting lineman.

Going into the game, the Patriots are down one CB and one WR, the Eagles\' are healthy.

During the game, both the eagles and the patriots lost an offensive lineman.  Both the eagles and the Patriots lost a WR.  The Patriots lose another CB.

I lose?  Seems as though it compares more than you thought.

Again, this all goes back to your statement about the Eagles not being in the same situation going into Pittsburgh as the Patriots were.  However, it\'s clear they are in a VERY similar situation, but the Eagles have the stronger backups.

First of all, all of the Eagles vs. Pats arguements get settled this weekend when we see how the Eagles do against the Steelers.  Right now, the Eagles, as much as I hate to say it, are the better team.

The Eagles are better because the one thing that New England had on them was defense.  However, New England\'s D is hurt and got ripped apart Sunday.  So at this moments, I\'d take the Eagles.

And as much as I want Tiki Barber for MVP, you are insane if you think anyone other than Owens is the MVP right now.  I just don\'t see how you can argue against him.  He\'s putting up amazing numbers, and he is the big difference that has the Eagles playing this way.  This Eagles team is not the same team as the last three years.  That team was a team that got it done.  This team is a team that demolishes people.  Owens is that difference.  The confidence that team has with him is amazing.  McNabb is having his best season ever.  He makes that entire team better.

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WOOT!!!!!

Just got 4 free tix to the Bills-Jets game....50 yd line, 1 row in front of the owner\'s box. I could throw my beer on Ralph Wilson if I wanted to. I get to see them lose in person!

Ethan, those were the injuries going INTO the game.  We lost Ty Law within minutes of the first quater, and he was the one covering plaxico burress, who then proceded to have a 2/3 touchdown game for something like 150 yards.

Well, it\'s Sunday, and that means NFL.\\

I\'ll be rooting for...

The Patriots - cause I want them to get back to their winning ways.

The Eagles - so that New England can either take the top spot or stay tied.

The Bills - so that the pesky Jets go back to their rightful place.