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Offline QuDDus
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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2004, 03:18:21 PM »
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Metallica is rich. I\'m poor. I\'ll burn some of their songs and they can make money off touring.

We both win.


That still does not give you the right to go stealing from artist. If you get caught downloading music you should get whatever is coming to you thats the risk you take when stealing.

I can\'t preach to you though I have a lot of free programs on comp oh sh*t let me get f*ck out here I\'ve said to much.
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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2004, 06:16:21 PM »
Now, would downloading a TV show you missed the night before, would you guys consider that stealing? Like lets say I missed last nights episode of South Park (brand new). I didn\'t set the tape. Would you guys think its stealing if its not for sale but you download it anyway the next day or a few days after? I\'m just curious what you guys think.
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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2004, 05:58:12 AM »
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Now, would downloading a TV show you missed the night before, would you guys consider that stealing? Like lets say I missed last nights episode of South Park (brand new). I didn\'t set the tape. Would you guys think its stealing if its not for sale but you download it anyway the next day or a few days after? I\'m just curious what you guys think.


i would say that its not stealing if u CANT buy it, like yeh an episode of neighbours or something - not like many people record them, but anyway - Neighbours will never b released on DVD so i would say this is totally acceptable. South Park is slightly different though becasue its possible that a season will be realesed on DVD etc
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2004, 07:02:38 AM »
I haven\'t downloaded anything P2P for about 3 years now.  I rather support the artists I like and buy their music.  My problem with artists today is the fact that alot of CD\'s, as of lately, have a ton of filler on them.  That\'s why I use I tunes.  I can download one song, or actually sample the entire CD before I pay for it.  Most albumns are about $9.99.  sometimes, new releases are like $11.99.

And I refuse to pirate Movies.
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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2004, 02:52:04 PM »
Lets say CD\'s cost the price you wanted them to, i bet you all would still download songs because it would be to inconvinient to go to a store, i know i would.
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2004, 04:20:58 PM »
Maybe, I wish I got cd\'s at $9.99, though. They\'re almost twice that by me.

I don\'t know about my rights regarding downloading music, I just know I do it guiltlessly. I wasn\'t going to buy that Ozzy/Phish/Madonna/Nirvana/Blues Traveler/Jadakiss/United States Air Force Band/Alabama/Twisted Sister/American Idol/Frank Sinatra/Kid Rock....... cd anyway.

I was, however, going to buy Greenday\'s album.  And I did.

I could download music all day long and the music industry wouldn\'t lose a dime.

... This got me thinking about the times I borrowed cds from my friends and listened to them. Record labels didn\'t get any money for that, either... I probably don\'t have the right to borrow things from my friends.

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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2004, 06:35:36 PM »
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And I refuse to pirate Movies.


Same here. I will download small clips of movies or trailers but I believe those are legal. If I like a movie, why would I hurt the company and download it when I can buy the movie so the company can keep cranking out good high budget movies.

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Lets say CD\'s cost the price you wanted them to, i bet you all would still download songs because it would be to inconvinient to go to a store, i know i would.


I probably would too, lol.
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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2004, 07:09:11 PM »
Going by the logic that musicians and their companies are so rich that stealing from them won\'t hurt them...

Well, lets legalize murder...

Heck...

More than 6 billion people and most of them don\'t contribute in anyway to the world...

Getting rid of them would only help and there\'ll still be plenty to procreate...
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« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2004, 05:13:11 AM »
Wow, that was a bold leap in logic.

Let\'s compare a 14-year-old girl downloading a Britney Spears song on Kazaa to murder.

I\'d say that, in fact, oranges and apples have a lot in common.

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« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2004, 06:48:45 AM »
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Going by the logic that musicians and their companies are so rich that stealing from them won\'t hurt them...

Well, lets legalize murder...

Heck...

More than 6 billion people and most of them don\'t contribute in anyway to the world...

Getting rid of them would only help and there\'ll still be plenty to procreate...


Im sorry but you are an idiot
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« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2004, 09:52:11 AM »
Still trying to act like stealing is ok, eh?

Better to be an "idiot" than a thief...

Murder may be an extreme example...

You steal from the rich because whats a few dollars?

Kill a few from an overpopulated planet...

Whats a few lives here and there?
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« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2004, 02:10:25 PM »
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Still trying to act like stealing is ok, eh?


If i was NEVER going to buy it - how is it stealing?


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Kill a few from an overpopulated planet...

Whats a few lives here and there?


You are still an idiot - u just cant compare the two so stop trying.
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« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2004, 02:17:25 PM »
You really can\'t.

But remember, it\'s STILL stealing, it\'s just that no one loses any money. It\'s a victimless crime.

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« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2004, 02:35:30 PM »
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If i was NEVER going to buy it - how is it stealing?


lets all give a standing ovation for this logic

I was NEVER gonna buy this car, so how is it stealing?
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« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2004, 04:04:50 PM »
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lets all give a standing ovation for this logic

I was NEVER gonna buy this car, so how is it stealing?


I was thinking something around those lines myself :laughing:
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