P2P in trouble?

[Titan]

A friend just sent this to me and I perused it a bit. Never heard of this in the news. This bill probably won\'t pass and this petition probably won\'t have any affect. What do you guys think?

http://www.savep2p.com/

3 years of jail, here i come.

OK yeh this sucks, but isnt there allready laws against pirating software, music, movies - ie copying it and puting it out onto the internet for otheres to download and this hasnt stopped anyone from doing it at all.

If companies didnt overcharge for CD\'s etc this probably woudnt happen, if a CD was 10 pence i would *probably* buy the CD as that is averagely how much it cost to produce one - no matter how many tracks are on it - and dont give me crap about bands losing money because of they charge £13 for an album they are making £12.50 profit, so just let the big fans buy music, DVD\'s etc becasue they always will if they like the band enough, i did it myself recently.

Quite simply its going to take a hell of a lot of tracking down and jailing people that do this for anything to be damaged in relation to P2P technology. I seem to remember laws being passed making it illegal to send spam e-mail...yeh that worked.

[Titan]

The spamming of email laws are probably just a slap on the wrist.

Its only fair guys. Peoples jobs and money are being stolen by the whole public, and nobody has the guts to admit it but a few. You cant justify stealing loads of songs or movies over the net.

I can, but I have the power of analytical thought

Welcome to the new technology age. Where companies rely on the goverment to secure their intellectual properties.

eh. Screw this. I learn about more music through p2p than i ever would anywhere else right now. It is pretty sad/funny how some people get all of their cd\'s off p2p networks and if there was a way to ban people from doing that 24/7 then id be fine with that i guess. Ive bought many cds from learing about/hearing them off p2p.

meh.

Originally posted by PS2_-\'_\'-_PS2
OK yeh this sucks, but isnt there allready laws against pirating software, music, movies - ie copying it and puting it out onto the internet for otheres to download and this hasnt stopped anyone from doing it at all.

If companies didnt overcharge for CD\'s etc this probably woudnt happen, if a CD was 10 pence i would *probably* buy the CD as that is averagely how much it cost to produce one - no matter how many tracks are on it - and dont give me crap about bands losing money because of they charge £13 for an album they are making £12.50 profit, so just let the big fans buy music, DVD\'s etc becasue they always will if they like the band enough, i did it myself recently.

Quite simply its going to take a hell of a lot of tracking down and jailing people that do this for anything to be damaged in relation to P2P technology. I seem to remember laws being passed making it illegal to send spam e-mail...yeh that worked.

12.50 is the gross profit and certaintly a big difference from Net.
My complain about it is that they should have offered us a method to choose the tracks we want and pay for the ones we want for.

Originally posted by PS2_-\'_\'-_PS2
OK yeh this sucks, but isnt there allready laws against pirating software, music, movies - ie copying it and puting it out onto the internet for otheres to download and this hasnt stopped anyone from doing it at all.

If companies didnt overcharge for CD\'s etc this probably woudnt happen, if a CD was 10 pence i would *probably* buy the CD as that is averagely how much it cost to produce one - no matter how many tracks are on it - and dont give me crap about bands losing money because of they charge £13 for an album they are making £12.50 profit, so just let the big fans buy music, DVD\'s etc becasue they always will if they like the band enough, i did it myself recently.

Quite simply its going to take a hell of a lot of tracking down and jailing people that do this for anything to be damaged in relation to P2P technology. I seem to remember laws being passed making it illegal to send spam e-mail...yeh that worked.

Overchage for CD\'s give me a break man. All new cd\'s that come out  at $9.99

After that they are usually 13.99

I buy all my music from bestbuy/target/Recordtown.

DR. Wax is the best place to get cheap music here. Then there are the shops in the burbs but If you live in Chicago - Dr Wax is the place.

Peer to peer isn\'t the problem. It\'s cd burners and recordable discs.

But record companies like Sony don\'t go after those because guess who makes and profits off them?

La laa la la la, corporate nonsense.

All I know is I download music like crazy to make mix discs of cds I would never buy. Then I go and buy cds I want.

la la al al lal a

-Dan

Originally posted by QuDDus
Overchage for CD\'s give me a break man. All new cd\'s that come out  at $9.99

After that they are usually 13.99

I buy all my music from bestbuy/target/Recordtown.

Good for you then you obviously like being ripped off and thats fine for you if you can afford it, a lot of bands say "its all about the music" - yeh right. When you rip your fans off grossly and roll around in money i bet u cant wait to make another album that sounds exacltly the same as all the other crap out there and still make millions off it.

The fact is it costs a fraction of the ammount of money you hand over for the CD than it does to produce it.

Well if you cant afford it, do what most people did before p2p.... DONT BUY IT!

Boo Hoo Hoo!!!

"Record companies overcharge me for their crappy music so I get back at them by stealing it off the net..."

No one forced you to buy it in the first place...